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[Damian May]

Yeah...

Kindred reproduce exponentially faster than Hungry Dead, they get more powerful faster and don't require anywhere near the time investment that Hungry Dead do to bring them to fully active status. They're disciplines give more bang for their buck in 9/10 cases and their ability to mass produce fanatically loyal superhumans essentially on a whim means that they win the foot soldier war without even trying.

Hungry Dead are on the back foot whenever they come in contact with them. To even get halfway to what a stock standard Brujah can do they need to make very...

[Damian May]

These guys are really helpful:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/434035333638043...

[Damian May]

There are a fair number of aquatic Nossies and a bloodline of Gangrel called Mariners in VtM, or at least there used to be. Not sure if they still exist after V5....

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Sample container, turkey baster and willing kinfolk takes care of the second one. 1st ones up to interpretation, true....

[Damian May]

Fenrir respect Strength. He seems to have that in spades. Both Physically and in terms of Personality. He's pretty much a model Fenrir.

Now, thats not to say there aren't individual Garou in the sept that might have baggage from the way they were raised that might get their hackles up.....but he's absolutely fine by Tribal and Totemic standards.

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The author is Steven Markley aka 'I Hate All Life'....

[Damian May]

Mostly Grumps.

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I like this....

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That may have been a term used by a certain Garkain HD Elder in one of my campaigns....

[Damian May]

Correctamundo....

[Damian May]

Very true.

Its just something I've noted over the decades of running KotE is that HD, especially when young, really need to be very careful around Cainites as the damn things are much more robust than your average beginning Hungry Dead. But my campaigns never really rise above street level, I think the highest level campaign I got to was the end stage of a small mixed group of HD and Kindred going from town to town trying to find a safe haven and in the process almost circumnavigating Australias coast.

Most of them are hard scrabble survival games in places like Bengkulu,...

[Damian May]

Well only a small portion of Hungry Dead have Fomori/Bakemono/Mockeries...where as every Cainite worth their salt has a bunch of ghouls. Hungry Dead rely a lot more on Scarlet Screens, mortal protectors who are only somewhat in the know.

Ghouls are immune to Delerium.

Cainite disciplines are cheap, more powerful at low levels and much less resource intensive. Umbral movement is a plus but difficult in cities.

The main advantage Kindred have is it takes a year or more to replace a young Hungry Dead, whereas it takes a day or maybe a couple of days to make...

[Damian May]

On the contrary. I never understood the idea of Hungry Dead as uber vamps, mechanically Cainites get stronger faster and grow their disciplines far more readily than the Hungry Dead can. They are also much more physically robust over all unless the Hungry Ghost embraces their demon side completely.

As a species Cainites have the ability to reproduce at an exponential rate and can create utterly loyal mortal+ armies essentially on a whim....

[Damian May]

The debased is just fan material so its up to the author of that if they want to continue it. I think it would make a decent SV project if they wanted to update it.

[Damian May]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoc

Its beyond dubious as RL history, but for Changeling who knows....