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  • I think you misunderstood my point. The problem was not the Technocracy or the Traditions.

    The problem was that the metaphysics of Consensus have no verisimilitude neither in the WoD (as presented in all the gamelines) or our world (as comparison). What most people believe/accept = Consensus, can not happen in WoD with an ascendant Technocracy since most people in WoD do not believe what the Technocracy expounds.

    The real world beliefs of most of the population (half, HALF of US citizens belive that angels are real) are closer to the Traditions....
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  • I see your point, but mine was even larger, in the World of Darkness, regular faith healing should be the bee's knees in those parts of the world that I mention (including the Bible Belt in USA), and many, MANY other things that would make no sense, if anything the Technocracy should be the ones fighting a losing battle..

    Awakening did a far better job of making a plausible universe....
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  • But my next point was that the Consensus thing is poorly defined and/or implemented, as stated in the books, the whole thing does not align to the world at large (neither the real world, nor the world where there is always a missing tribe of magic users somewhere and their associated mortals, independent of splat). I quote myself:...
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    So, what do you think would be more potent, and in tune with the character:
    • Correspondence 3, Entropy 1, Mind 1, Prime 1
    • Correspondence 3, Mind 3


    I just got tempted by the traveller concept exposed by Astromancer but also what Dataweaver and Heavy Arms said about fighting fair.
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  • [V20] Tremere, the friend no one likes

    I was reading the Tremere (both clan and founder) history, and it seems to me that nearly everyone wants them gone:
    • Assamite clan, for placing a curse upon them.
    • Gangrel clan, for the Gargoyle creation using Gangrel bodies.
    • Gargoyle clan, for being enslaved.
    • Nosferatu clan, for the Gargoyle creation using Nosferatu bodies.
    • Telyavelic Tremere bloodline, for fear of destruction.
    • Tremere antitribu bloodline, for branding them.
    • Tzimisce clan, for the Gargoyle creation using Tzimisce bodies and for becoming a clan using Tzimisce blood.
    • Sabbat, a personal hatred of the Antediluvians
    ...
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    Health restoration, increasing attributes permanently (very important for the character as she can be healthier, better looking, and without impediments like eyesight issues). But I hear recommendations in the spread....
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    The justification was to have more analysis capabilities pertaining to the simulation permissions (spheres at 1), and protect the user avatar (as in video game avatar) inside the simulation (Life 3).
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    What are your opinions on these two options:
    • Entropy 1, Life 3, Mind 1, Prime 1
    • Correspondence, 1, Entropy 1, Life 3, Mind 1
    ...
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    Thanks for the answer.

    It is Life 3 what boosts attributes, as per M20 How Do You Do That:



    So for certain boosting effects Life can supplement Mind. And in the same book is stated that those attributes can be made permanent at half the experience cost....
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    Thanks for the instrument information, I have updated the post, can you please reference the page and book for M20?

    And regarding the original question what sphere dot combination: 3/3, 3/2/1, or 3/1/1/1 ? And which spheres?...
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    Thanks for the answer. I was thinking something about the lines of:
    • Paradigm: Everything is Data
    • Practices: Psionics
    • Instruments: symbols; writings, inscriptions, and runes; languages, eye contact, energy, thought forms, meditation
    The character believes that reality is a simulation and understands that simulated computers inside the false reality would not be effective to alter the simulation itself (a disagreement with the Virtual Adepts), only privileged users of the system with the right permissions can alter reality; therefore everything should be "mental" magic, sending orders...
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  • Thanks for the answers.I had thought that:
    1. Would be iffy, REALLY high Dexterity + Auspex + Vicissitude + high dots in Medicine would do; but perhaps still impossible.
    2. Possible, but difficult, like a very limited Vozhd creation, and you need "donated" organs and/or a lot of body mass to work with.
    3. Impossible (it seems more something that Vicissitude + Auspex + high dots in Medicine would do)
    4. Once 3 is done, doing 4 seemed just tissue removal (as long as the removal was not life-threatening, like removing the whole esophagus).
    5. Seemed flat out impossible.
    6. I was confused on
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to [W20] Gifts questions
    Thanks for the answers!
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  • lbeaumanior
    started a topic [W20] Gifts questions

    [W20] Gifts questions

    Some questions arise when reviewing gifts:
    1. Razor Claws.
      "All claw attacks do two additional dice of damage and are made at –1 difficulty for the rest of the scene."
      The -1 difficulty is for the attack rolls and/or the damage rolls?
    2. Kiss of Helios.
      "Additionally, she may ignite any portion of her body and keep it burning as she desires.... The character inflicts two additional dice of aggravated damage with burning attacks."
      Does the gift grant the ability to auto ignite a part of the body, or do you have to set that body part on fire using
    ...
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    I do not understand the fascination with Wonder creation for an starting character, if I read the book right: "In order to craft a wonder, the character must have all of the necessary Spheres.", so what good is being able to craft it without many other spheres to create something?...
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  • lbeaumanior
    started a topic [M20, V20, W20] Difficulties above 10

    [M20, V20, W20] Difficulties above 10

    What are the rules, if any exist, in the 20th editions (Mage, Vampire, Werewolf, etc) for difficulties above 10? For example some powers are Willpower + X; if your target has Willpower 10, then what does it happen:
    • Roll at difficulty 10?
    • Need extra successes? If so, how many?
    • Automatic failure?
    Thanks,
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  • Thanks for the answer, but I am asking for V20, no amalgams there, it is a discipline of its own....
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  • Bad ideas:

    The whole granola-hippie thing on Mages and Werewolves
    "Brrr, Science bad, Science makes kills creativity, Scientists hate nature, brrr".

    The whole point of the scientific method is to understand how reality works. If tomorrow we could fly by clapping our hands you would have scientists measuring how many claps, how strong the clap needs to be, for how long it works, if its the motion of the hands or the sound, if you need human-like hands so monkeys/gorillas can fly too, if prosthetic hands are acceptable, etc, and THEN you would have people...
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  • lbeaumanior
    replied to Optimal Sphere selection
    The calculation is assuming you want to have 6 spheres at the same rating in the end, all them at 3, 4, or 5 dots, it doesn't matter as longs as the six end up in the same value. Adding more spheres is a flat cost, doesn't modify the end result.

    All calculations had the favoured sphere at the lowest possible value when several options are possible.

    Less expensive to more expensive:
    1. 3/3
    2. 3/1/1/1 (One experience point over the first option).
    3. 3/2/1 (Three experience points over the first option).
    4. 1/1/1/1/1/1 (Five experience points over the first option).
    5. 2/1/
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  • V20 Vicissitude and physical impediments

    I am curious to the limits of Vicissitude, and I wonder if applied to a mortal, it can:
    1. Heal physical impediments like nearsightedness (myopia)?
    2. Heal physical impediments like missing organs?
    3. Identify cancerous cells?
    4. Remove cancerous cells?
    5. Alter cancerous cells so they are no longer cancerous?
    6. Remove body fat from the body (liposuction)?
    Thanks for the time and attention.
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    Last edited by lbeaumanior; 01-03-2021, 12:04 AM.
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