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  • LostLight
    started a topic Princes of Pak Kret

    Princes of Pak Kret

    So lately I caught up with the Strange Predators & Stranger Prey thread, and I read Chris Allen's writeup for the Red Prince. While the Red Prince is cool all by itself, it did brought some thoughts about an expanded Pak Kret setting, which felt to me as some form of a dark mirror for Tokyo. Where Tokyo presented a setting of all different supernatural creatures with interacting societies all bound by the scheming Hototogisu and the Envoys to the Others which serve the local Freehold, Pak Kret seems to be a place of fear and horror, where all supernaturals are being pushed to the bring under...
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  • One day, I'll manage to say "kosceij" without my russian friends laughing at me :P

    Cool stuff. Really cool stuff.
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  • Well, Limusmurmak looks amazing- I am probably going to spend a lot of time trying to fit words into the [REDACTED] parts of the writeup :P It also gave me the opportunity to catch up with some of the older posts, and I must say that the pavane is absolutely terrifying, and I would really want to see a Pak Kret writeup one day. It feels like a very insidious dark mirror to Tokyo, only that where in the later we had the Envoys for the Others who were meant to serve as some sort of a crossover communication channel, the Princes of the Broken Majesty are a common threat which subjects and twists...
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  • Well, owl servitors is indeed a very good pointer towards vampires. I don't think I have Lore of the Forsaken- I wasn't really into Werewolf in 1e (2e really did an amazing job in drawing me to the gameline). As I have some plans for Sky Hunter, I am a bit wary about having them eaten by Silver Wolf, however..

    Goddamn it.

    Sorry, Wolfdamn it.

    Through half of the last post I tried to get what exactly I am missing about pain and fallen purity, while in the same breath I did my best not to use the words "luciferian" to describe him (less about the actual...
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  • Well, on the subject of this theory (if you were to use it), you can't judge Silver Wolf by what he is- but by what he was. Under this theory, Silver Wolf once had some driving force, some object which he hunted, and which he tore from its own Essence to become "Pure". Now, the change does not need to be dramatic- if we were to follow Acrozatirim's musing, Dire Wolf once was the foe of humanity, trating them as his sacred prey- but he lost it, and became hunger with no purpose. Of course, if Silver Wolf was Opalescent, then the change may have been more dramatic- but still, I am going...
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  • First- that was just awesome to read!

    Second, I am sincerely troubled with how well that fits the presented theory- Dire Wolf is indeed sick and lacking, and have had his sacred prey torn apart from him. Perhaps Red Wolf was birthed to replace him after he failed. Perhaps she found that missing part of him and eaten it, absorbing it into herself. Heck, maybe she is it- a former aspect of Dire Wolf who took life of its own, becoming a rival to the fallen god of the hunt. Rabid Wolf is also really great, and clarifies a lot about the connection between her and Creator Wolf, as was presented...
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  • You Are What You Hunt- Random Firstborn Thoughts

    That is the most basic law of Hisil.

    Like draws like. Resonance creates a feedback between Flesh and Shadow. Spirits propagate the concepts which they embody, in order to later feed upon them. Peace feeds upon peace, death upon death, sorrow upon sorrow and blood upon blood. Whole hierarchies of spirit nobles are joined by that concept, drawn to each other through the similarity of their nature. In order to gain Essence, you must feed upon things which fit your symbolism- either things which makes sense for you to devour, considering what you embody, or things which share their nature...
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  • Well, that explains the graviton- Dr. Fredrickstan (such as myself) is not a strong theory fan. Having a fancy mathematics which you can't solve and pretty predictions you can't test because technology is not advanced enough is a bit problematic, in his opinion :P
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  • LostLight
    replied to The D&D thread
    It should be mentioned that in Dragonlance, Evil is much more legitimate than in other settings- like, sure, it is still evil, but evil has a place in the world, with balance between good an evil being the most important feature. Sympathy for evil characters is very, very common, and following dark gods and using dark magic (as well as being a member of an "evil culture"), does not make them unplayable in the general setting.

    Also, that is actually not the case- sure, ogres were created by the gods of evil, but the modern ogres are those who were cursed by the gods of good...
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  • LostLight
    replied to The D&D thread
    So one of the things I always wondered about was why there weren't any drow in Dragonlance and instead went with the "dark elves" as being exiled instead, and someone has lately asked it on the Dragonlance facebook group. Margaret Weis commented that she and Tracy Hickman decided to not include drow because they "didn't like the concept of dark skinned elves being inherently evil".

    Did I mentioned that I simply adore her?
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  • Stretching? Seriously?

    Hadad is a god of agriculture and fertility (like, that is his main role as bringer of rain). Bull is the god of agriculture and fertility, just as Wolf is the god of hunt and boundaries. The Baal Hadad are presented in WAtP as the "gods of the community"- they are meant to guide their communities, and agriculture is the base of civilization, even more in the times where the old gods were worshiped. Their role is to watch over "the herd", and serve as their living gods. Bulls are representations of fertility across the ancient mythologies...
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  • Also, on the subject of Idols- in War Against the Pure, the Baal Hadad had a certain bonus decided by the material which they used to craft their Idol after their First Change. It was a minor thing, and could be further developed, but I do like the idea that the material used to craft your "divine form" has influence on your abilities, as it grants a certain variation to the werebulls.
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  • For what its worth, Hadad was a fertility god as part of his preview as a weather god (rain fertilize the ground), and as such also an agricultural god. Those are aspects of Bull, not Helios, which give the werebull their name. Helios relates to the Baal Hadad through their connection to Moloch, who may have been a god of fire, sun and sacrifice (or just a general name meant to sign a god as a "King", just as Baal signs a god as "Lord", or just the name of the type of ceremony used to sacrifice children to the gods, or.. you know, it's complicated).

    So in short,...
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  • From a very quick read, it does look like a nice update- I like the Labyrinthine Temple, even though I would have also liked to see it involvinh their idol crafting in some way, perhaps as a way to channel their divine might. I also think that as so much time has passed since Pangaea, I am not sure that much of Bull's heart slivers have remained to allow the Rite of Moloch to activate, so perhaps it would be better to not make it integral to their First Change. Also, I've just wanted to note that Bull haven't canonically died- while it is indeed a possibility (a lot of time has passed since Pangaea,...
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  • So, just a very minor nitpick- Generation and Antediluvians are terms from Masquerade, while Demon is set in the Chronicles of Darkness (so you should use Requiem's terms).

    The concept itself is cool, however.
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  • How did I missed that piece until now?!
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  • LostLight
    replied to Modern Bron?
    I think that Bloodlines: the Legendary should have any information you need about modern Bron. Some may require some face lifting (it is still 1e, after all), but it should provide a solid base.
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  • Tell me about it. My thesis submission is delayed for a number of days because of semantics -_-



    Well, I would describe the connection that the Cernunni has with Hisil as "being Crowned by the Shadow". They are not a part of it, but they are granted a mantle by it (sure, being "crowned as a prey" is not the best position in the spirit world, but it does have its benefits). So yeah, they have a spiritual side to their existence, but it is more of an "external" connection than an "internal" connection, like the one the Uratha has....
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  • LostLight
    replied to Mighty Bear (Fan Pangean)
    While I personally have little problem with Winter Wolf simply being the child of Father Wolf and some powerful winter/cold/weather spirit, the whole point of "this story is true" is that most chances it is not accurate at all, and I do like Bear as presented here. It may also be a nice addition to my Awful Ice project, with Bear serving as a Ice-touched Pangaean of some sort.
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  • it is an homebrew material I wrote as Promethean Antagonist. You can find that presentation in here


    Well, I am yet to be all knowing, but it is always good to learn something new! (like, I don't really know much about Discordianism other than it exists, or connections between gravitons and the number five. I'll look those up, thanks)


    one of the reasons to make the narrator an IC mortal was mainly to make that Treatise very, very, very unreliable. As it is presented as a document which characters may stumble upon in game, it would mean that the characters...
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