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  • If you define immoral as can not be killed either by old age or damage in any way, then the only things truly immortal (possible besides the Arisen) would be some Horrors with the Immortal Dread Power...

    In most cases, cannot die by old age or doesn't age at all is the definition of immortal. Ergo here lies the Kindred, Ghouls, Demons, Exarchs, The God-Machine etc.
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  • 1)Not sure but probably. Would probably work like dominate possession.
    2) Strix usually don't take damage from sunlight unless engulfed and trapped by it, and possessing a host renders it immune to it....
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  • Yes, that was what I said. Excuse any confusion.

    Edit: or maybe not. Probably not. You're meaning it in a literal sense whereas I mean the area itself is the subject.
    So sorry for adding yet more confusion....
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    Last edited by Poseur; 01-02-2018, 12:36 PM.

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  • As stated before, you don't loose any discipline dots if you're embraced. But considering that Ghouls start out with 1 dot they'd get 2 more if they are embraced. Ghoul PCs start out with 2 dots and gain another dot if embraced. An Elder ghoul might be ruled as a PC ghoul or an NPC ghoul, gaining either 1 or 2 dots, or ruled as already having basic knowledge.
    If Ghouls got 4 dots all together when being embraced, all vampires would start their embraces by spending 1 vitae and willpower to ghoul them before, and if you didn't you would loose out on the arms race. Considering how rare it...
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  • Well considering that the spell factor Scale ; Area of Effect, targets an area and not a particular subject with the spell but all subjects (of a particular kind) within the area, I'd say it's pretty clear it's not supposed to work like that....
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  • Although AoE spells aren't centered around yourself and keeps moving about when you move about
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  • From a in-char veiw, maybe it's better for keeping ones humanity higher.
    Only thing ooc i can think of is Lashing Out rolls, they don't benefit from Vigor....
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  • Kinda yeah, but then again IMHO banes are a bit weak over all. Like them better in danse macabre.
    Or you could just eat one , heal the damage when exiting and dumping the body ^_^...
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  • I'd say that the Holy Day bane usually is a sacred day in the spiritual or religious way. Although if one day is considered more important or something in their culture it could surely be that day.
    A modern interpretation could be Mondays, how often don't you have people tired from the week ends and telling everyone "I hate Mondays". Or maybe something like Wednesdays which at least here in Sweden have gotten recognition as "Little Saturaday" as an excuse to party and go out in the middle of the week. So even if that particular person don't hold the day sacrosanct it...
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  • Good question. I'd treat them as close to Draugr with a humanity of 0 that goes about hunting and surviving and whatever the beast wants to do in the moment unless they have a specific command.
    I guess as they're newly formed "vampires" they'd rather stay away from normal kindred because they'd be inferior, but i guess it could happen, especially if they group up and you want this to happen in the story. However under normal conditions, amaranth is not a goal of the Beast and doesn't strive to do it in frenzy. So in most instances or always if they commit amaranth, it's because...
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  • Poseur
    started a topic New Devotion: Cry For the Hungry Horde

    New Devotion: Cry For the Hungry Horde

    Well here is a devotion i cooked up earlier. It belongs in my chronicle to a ancient elder blood goddess that's worshiped by the CoC.
    Feel free to use, critique or whatever you feel like.


    Cry For the Hungry Horde
    (Animalism ••••, Vigor •••, Protean •)
    Ritual burials is more then just a way of getting rid of the dead,
    it’s a cleaning ritual that in many cultures is a way of making sure
    the dead stays dead. This devotion wakes the hungry dead for a short
    while, upsetting their sleep and fills their dead bodies with a
    ...
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  • They would get 1 more. I'm pretty sure this is RAW as well.
    But alas, if you would gain 5, every kindred would first ghoul their future childer just to make them a tid bit stronger as you gain 1 discipline dot the moment you're ghouled....
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  • Well with one reach its 5 spells concealed which ain't such a small deal. I'd figure that's the intent of the spell, or else it kinda counters what it's supposed to do....
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  • Hmm checking up on the changeling kickstarter preview i do find two merits and some rules that I have missed. Lucid dreamer and Dream Shaper. These are kinda what i need together with the Oneiromancy rules.

    <Kinda feel like Sherlock now >
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  • I do have backed it and read through it, but I assume most of it just works for Changelings. Like normal lucid mortals can't really use dream shaping and so and such?
    Yeah i think that's kinda what the labyrinth is influencing the cult is doing. Kinda like "the dream world is all there is, and all strangeness in the world is born from human archetypes"
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  • The Etruscan shrewis definitely a size 0 mammal.






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  • ♪♫♪ Dream dream dream when I want you ♪♫♪

    Obligatory music
    So I've got some trouble brewing for myself now. I have a player character whom's about to join a mystery cult that's about dream visions, Jungian psychoanalysis, and self improvment by getting to understand the dreams of oneself and how it get together in a larger Jungian (ergo astral realm) collective unconscious dream state. All this and dandy fine yes!

    But here's the catch, it's a human game (with crossover elements) and the cult in question are a part of a guardian labyrinth so they don't get the whole supernal picture, but they have some glimpses of...
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  • This is probably RAW yes. But one could assume BP 0 would count as BP 1 for these instances.

    Kinda agree with Tessie here, it's kinda a dick move to have to spend exp on things you cant move. I've expressed my view on disciplines and ghouls before.
    In my Head Canon, ghouls can use disciplines....
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  • There has come up a fair bit of good arguments in this discussion.I think I've reevaluated the situation about the Legacies and such and I'm inclined to agree with Satchel, Mrmdubois et. at....
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  • Poseur
    replied to Mage taking over a Vampires body
    (nevermind: probably just feeding the troll)
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