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  • Per casting. If the power wins, it wins.
    Like you have proven the power level between these individuals for now, in this scene.
    Same thing with Auspex Vs Obfuscate for example. You wouldn't get a new roll if the obfuscated one gets behind a curtain and comes forth a few times in the same scene....
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  • Scion aint part of cofd so not that relevant. Dark deras companion is just more of the same so.
    So more a question, what is a companion book?
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  • Liars plague is surely not working as a divination rod vs facts and fiction, e.g. the believes of the victim that he/she thinks are true.
    If you really believe the earth is flat and under the spell, asked if the earth is flat, it doesn't go off even though it's pretty ball-shaped.

    However, if a memory is changed of a particular event or belief with dominate and it's opposed to what the character used to perceive to be true, the Liars Plague should trigger a clash of wills against the dominate. If it wins, it goes of, if it looses, nothing happens and the "lie" is...
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  • Clash of wills. As usual when its a power vs a power.
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  • Poseur
    replied to [2E] Feeding Work Arounds
    Well there's both Oaths and C-Law that tears it away, there is a Scale that removes it and there's rituals for both schools of blood magic.
    A few is in the Core rules 2ed, Secrets of the Covenants and Blood Sacraments.
    Some have a few drawbacks but all covenants have the tools to remove it.
    Vinculum aint that a big deal in V:tR....
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  • Poseur
    replied to [2E] Feeding Work Arounds
    Actually all 5 have ways to counter it....
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  • How about it's penalized by a contested roll of a resistance attribute and powerstat? Like it is already.
    What have defense with it to do? You mean you don't look you opponent in the face in a fight and that should be portrayed by defense?...
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  • That's probably the intent of the rules. Not sure if stated as it though. But automatic success on spellcasting seems "a bit" broken....
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    They are not immune to Conditions in any way, just by happenstance, neither of them have any at this moment in time. I'm quite aware of the rules, it just happens that my players resolved the ones they had last session, new ones will come.



    Yes in hindsight it was a doubble edged sword to have the mage remove a few Conditions from the PC's but it was far more productive for the game then letting a few really have persistant ones get stuck for ever. It was after all part of the main story and plot-turns and twists involving time travel etc and...
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  • As above, if it wasn't clear they are portraying their characters as pretty broken. And on the Conditions part, I agree, it's just as in this part of the chronicle, the Conditions they had that where persistant is resolved, partly by a mage that used them for their own cause. The'll probably get new persistant Conditions soon enough. But the main thing remain, both role-playing emotionally train-wrecks and getting Conditions from Breaking points could be resolved without an Integrity trait as it stands....
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  • Oh if it wasn't clear on my part, they are! They portray their characters very well and very much broken down and cracked. It's not a role-playing problem, it's a pure mechanical one....
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  • You mean they aren't a form of Goetia? Their 'home' is in the Temenos, aight?...
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  • Poseur
    started a topic So, is Integrity really a waste trait?

    So, is Integrity really a waste trait?

    So here I'm thinking about Integrity, which I've been doing for a couple of weeks now. To me, it mostly seems like a waste trait.
    For the first time, we'd been playing a mortal chronicle for a longer time and by now all players are at 1-2 in Integrity (cus it cant drop to 0).
    However, except from a role-playing standing, nothing really has changed for their characters. Non of them have any Conditions from their fall by now, all persistent conditions are resolved.

    The only difference right now is they have a few less dice then before on Breaking points, which seems just,...
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  • Doesn't the Blood Bond end with the thralls death though? Does it persist even in death? I always believed it ended with death, but then again, Blood Bound ghoul-childes and ghoul ghosts seems like fun things to play with.
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