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  • I recently reread the Kigan description from the core book (which was described as non-compatible but somehow the same as Cruac), and the description of Veneficia in B&S. I decided I wanted to use the B&S rules to create some other blood sorcery options that would have a different feel to the overly hermetic Theban sorcery or the debasing Cruac. These would still mostly be used by groups in the Circle. While the acolytes are clearly described as being very diverse, since they were formed from so many different out groups that just didn't want to be forced to join the Lance, mechanically...
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  • Your suggestion makes sense based on the description of Veneficia, but I always felt that the blood sorcery options were not even worth the cost until the option to cast more spontaneous spells without knowing a specific ritual for them was written into Sacraments and Blasphemies book. Reducing the number of rituals the character can learn without removing the ability to cast more spontaneous magic is not a sufficient limit, while restricting the number of rituals and removing the spontaneous option would make the ability too weak IMO....
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  • Thank you. I must have misspelled Veneficia when I searched the forum for other topics about it.

    Limiting the practitioner to Humanity 5 in order to have anything but the most rudimentary skill at first seemed to contradict what I wanted, but upon reflection it means that elders who want to practice the art with any real ability have to maintain a level of humanity higher than most ancilla, let alone other elders (according to the core humanity description), so this may work for me, at least as a starting point....
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    Alternate forms of Blood sorcery ideas

    I'm planning to create a version of Veneficia practiced in the modern day in my game. Owing to its more structured / civilized nature, the humanity limiting penalty associated with Cruac doesn't seem appropriate. I am trying to come up with a new limitation to associate with this art without duplicating the willpower / prop requirements of Theban sorcery. Has anyone done any work in this direction that could give me some ideas?
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  • The Beast of Gevaudan, one of those things that is associated with werewolves, and that in retrospect was sometimes seen as a werewolf, was famously killed by a silver bullet in the late 1700s. It started being associated with werewolves at least by the 1800s, so the "silver as werewolf bane" concept is older than the "sunlight vaporizes vampires idea" IRL. (even if it is newer than vikings)....
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    I thought you could only heal the visual damage from resiliance use while resting....
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    Aggravated damage is fairly rare in our games. Maybe if it wasn't I would appreciate Resilience more (though it is always harder top appreciate a passive ability)....
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    Celerity is great, but IMO is more blood dependent. Vigor shines brighter when bloodpools are low....
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    Most useful physical discipline

    Input requested. A protracted debate happened among some friends stemming from various disagreements on various topics. I won't bore anyone with how the unsatisfied discussion happened, but the basic question is "which physical discipline is, in general, the most useful?". Specifically:

    1) in a character that likes to use physical confrontation and violence to get things done, or
    2) in a character that enjoys using all the perks of a vampire, but mainly uses the physical as an avenue to avoid consequences (fleeing - speed is not the only factor here).
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