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  • I'd prefer there be an upper limit to how ancient any machine would be. At least within the context of Pugmire, it's important to keep the true fall of Man to be mysterious. If anyone - even an AI - were ancient enough to have personally been around, it would automatically undermine the mysteriousness of the past.

    Which doesn't mean a machine couldn't claim to be ancient and godly. Androids that look like humans basically have a built-in means of duping gullible uplifts into believing they are Man returned. Inevitably, there'd be false Man cults popping up every so often. Which, naturally,...
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  • I kinda want a sourcebook that all about robots. Like, while Man was uplifting animals - as you do - they were also making androids with self-aware AI. And with Man gone, the androids are existing on the fringes of the world, hiding from the uplifts because they look too much like humans, and they don't want to freak the uplifts out or give them false hope. So they're just sitting in the shadows, maintaining enough knowledge of Man's tech to generate the electricity for their batteries, and to build replacement parts or new androids.

    And they'd have a religious reverence for their...
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  • Well, the Traditions have never been unified in ideology. So if the Batini made their own, just strictly looking at that earlier model, it would not be all-Arabic/Middle Eastern mages. It would be what the Disparate Alliance is: a loosely allied group of vastly different magical groups from all over the world, and who have a lot of work to do in order to remain a united force, despite half of them hating all the others vehemently.

    Also, I don't think the Batini have a strong enough ethos on their own to justify any Crafts being made from them. They have enough material for exactly...
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  • It's called the "Disparate Alliance". M20 made it an entire fifth side in the Ascension War, and staffed it will all most notable Crafts. It was a whole thing.

    Have we not been over this?...
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  • Those, my friend, are the magic words.

    "All other things being equal, choose the option that allows for the most stories." It's the adage I go by for the World of Darkness, and other games. For this reason, if nothing else, I think the idea has merit.

    And it's not like it deviates from RAW to some profane degree. If we assume that a vampire can take blood while in torpor - and we do - and we assume a ghoul can cut one of their veins and draw blood up - and we do - there's no reason why this concept can't be workable.

    Sure, there are issues of trust....
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  • Bluecho
    replied to Advice on a Nephandic cult,
    Maybe the sailors and fishermen are doing it all for a very ancient reason: sacrifices, in return for fair weather and plentiful catches.

    The Nephandi at the head of the cult are experts in Entropy, Forces, and Life. They grant their followers good fortune, manipulate the weather to ensure safe travel, and make the sea more bountiful. Humans have sacrificed prodigiously - even human lives - for much the same, since time immemorial. Certain types of fishermen would especially enjoy these services; Deadliest Catch isn't a popular documentary for nothing. Crab fishing can be a brutal...
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  • Sure, the Technocracy has surveillance everywhere in the developed world. But all that data is useless if they don't know what to look for. And Traditionalists do not register their identities and magickal affiliations with some central Mage authority. They pop up everyone - Awaken anywhere - and get recruited by whoever happens to find them first. By default, the Technocracy does not know about the existence of any given individual Tradition or Craft mage. Not unless they are given reason to know that a particular person - in an enormous sea of people - is one of their ideological opponents....
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  • I see this less as a bug, and more like a feature. The World of Darkness, for all its eponymous darkness, is a setting where the Lovecraftian concept of a tiny world in a larger, uncaring universe is directly opposed by and competed with that world's inhabitants, and their own conceptions. The dissonance between themes and outlooks is intentional. With Mage especially, but in all the games, it's a war of world views. And it plays out everywhere, this conflict between small beings and seemingly unstoppable abominations beyond them.

    In Vampire, young Kindred fight against the machinations...
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  • 269) The Blur [Burn]: Meddle with the flow of time, and there are consequences. When a Mage habitually uses magick to speed up or slow time, the Blur can come for them. It's a blink-and-you-miss-it event - literally - when the Blur comes in. Suddenly, a blur of color and motion flies past the mage, socking them in the face (or, in greater backlashes, doing more lethal harm). Almost as soon as it comes, it then moves on, disappearing and leaving the mage confused as to what just happened. If the mage just happened to have Time senses on when it happens - or they use Time 2 to examine the event...
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  • Bluecho
    replied to 1000 Mage Plots
    27) On the internet, a series of bots post across message boards and social media, asking the same question: Have you see the disembodied head, with white hair, blue eyes, and a scar across his nose?

    No one knows who started this campaign, and most are quick to write it off as a bit of viral marketing, an ARG, or a meme no one gets the reference to. It flares into popularity as folks talk about it, making theories or parodies. Eventually, the meme fades into the background. No one had much to go on anyway, so it didn't have anywhere to grow. The bots just kept spamming their message,...
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  • Reinhardt (Reinhardt Wilhelm)
    -Iteration X (New Avalon) or Society of Ether (Adventurer). Alternatively, he could be a member of a Knightly Order (as he is in Overwatch), which might place him in the Celestial Chorus (with affiliations with the Alexandrian Society), the Knights Templar, Hermetic House Thig/Verditus, or some kind of esoteric knightly Craft (though he may be its only member).
    -Paradigm: Bring Back The Golden Age, Divine Order Earthly Chaos, or It's All Good - Have Faith!
    -Practice: Hypetech/Cybernetics, Martial Arts, possibly Faith (in Chivalry) or Dominion...
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  • Orisa (modified OR15 defense robot)
    -Iteration X or technomancer Ngoma
    -Another character I hesitate to stat as a Mage. Luckily, we also have Orisa's creator: Efi Oladele, 11-year old genius who modified an existing defense robot with advanced Artificial Intelligence. Presumably, she might be the Mage in this situation, with Orisa as the technomagickally enhanced Familiar. Whether this is true or if Orisa herself is self-aware enough to Awaken, I shall stat her capabilities below, as usual.
    -Forces 3 + Prime 2 for the energy-based machine gun, assuming it isn't just a regular...
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  • D.Va (Hana Song)
    -Iteration X or Virtual Adepts
    -Paradigm: Everything Is Data, or Tech Holds All The Answers
    -Practice: Hypertech, Cybernetics, and Reality Hacking
    -Instruments: Vehicles (Meka), Weapons, Devices & Machines, Mass Media, Fashion, Computer Gear, Dances & Movement, Meditation (hyperfocused gaming sessions), Voice ("NERF THIS!")
    -Forces 2 or Correspondence 4 + Matter 2 + Forces 2 for her "Defense Matrix", stopping projectiles from coming into her area. Forces alone stops kinetic and other energy type projectiles, while Correspondence...
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  • Unless you tailor the effect to only work on kinetic force above a certain threshold of velocity. If it moves as fast as a bullet, it bounces off. If it's slower than that, it doesn't. Indeed, I would personally mandate that the Effect be that specific, and require them to erect another shield for lower velocities. Generally I like my Forces shields to be specific; fire, lightning, bullets, gravity, etc.

    But anyway, if it's only above a certain threshold, then the effect causes no problems.

    Alternatively, you could be a fair Storyteller, and allow the Mage enough control...
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  • Next, you'll want to consider what kind of Kinfolk you are. Which tribe is your character most closely related to? Because that obviously shapes your character's Backgrounds, Abilities, and specific outlook. A Wendigo kinfolk will draw more of their Practices from Native American medicine work, while a Get of Fenris will draw more heavily from Norse practices. A Bone Gnawer will likely be a transient (low or no Resources, but perhaps lots of Survival and street Contacts), and be drawn more towards being an Urban Shaman. Similarly, a Glass Walker kinfolk will gravitate towards Technoshamanism -...
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  • Well first, you're going to want to go Dreamspeaker, as the animistic worldview gels very well with a Fera's. Getting the Totem background helps too; a Kinfolk unable to undergo First Change will try to gain the patronage of their tribe's Totem, if at all possible. Doing so would go a long way towards garnering the character respect among their shapechanging relatives.

    Spirit is going to be your primary Sphere, followed by Life obviously. The character will want to shoot for Spirit 4, so they can start creating Fetishes. But you know all that already. To get around the need for Spheres,...
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  • Bluecho
    replied to 1000 Mage Plots
    23) Some punk just stole one of the PC's Talismans, and is using it to settle a score with a rival gang. The punk knows just enough about the Wonder to make it work, but not enough to understand the cost of wielding vulgar arts.

    If the PC wants their item back - and they will - they need only follow the trail of Paradox. (This assumes, of course, that the Mage can't just use Correspondence to teleport the Wonder back with minimal effort.)
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  • Yeah, I don't see anyone BUT Cappadocius pulling this off. Remember, not only did the force(s) responsible kill 200 of what had to be the strongest people the Clan had (who better to guard Augustus?), but managed to best a third gen vampire, and take him (UN)ALIVE. Most strike teams from the Sabbat, Camarilla, Technocracy, or Tal'Mahe'Ra would have difficulty pulling that off, to put it mildly. Augustus (as controlled by Cappadocius) would have no problem doing it, since he's got the raw power and the necromantic knowledge to kill and/or rend all of them. Especially since he's their boss, and...
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  • Exactly. If the NWO can exploit Mythic Threads (sorry, "Hypernarratives") by wearing black suits and mirrorshades, Traditionalists should be able to go full Matrix and expect similar results, Mythic Thread-wise....
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  • You may, alternatively, make the mysterious employer a Follower of Set. They have plenty of blood sorcerers, who might have interest in magical ancient Egyptian artifacts.

    If the cabal is being made for this adventure (rather than being a preexisting group), consider pushing your players towards characters of the Society of Ether, Order of Hermes, and/or Ngoma. The latter two groups have ties to Egyptian high ritual magick, and are generally scholarly. The Etherites, meanwhile, have a faction called the Adventurers, who take inspiration from pulp era adventure, crime, and SF stories....
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