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  • I am considering just running with any Active Mage Sight can get a shot at piercing a Veiling spell, as it seems to me that every path has ways to justify piercing the veil if you dig deep enough and the language in the book as it stands doesnt give me enough reason to justify turning to my players and saying 'no' when a player points it out. The various 'you cant see me' spells are all still very powerful in any case....
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  • The books section on Mage Sight contains the following example, which i am struggling to understand, was hoping you guys could help.

    Concealment magic, of whatever type, can hide a target from Active Mage Sight, but only if the concealment would logically mask the target from the purview of the Arcanum in question. Even then, if the concealment power uses the same magical principles as the detecting Arcanum, the mage still has a chance to see through it. For example, a light-based invisibility spell would conceal a target from Mind Sight, but Life Sight could still detect the living...
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  • Back with a few more quick questions, this time about how spells interact with Twilight and the Shadow when the caster lacks Death or Spirit.

    If I have a sympathetic link to another mage, who is currently in a twilight form (say via Death Gate) and currently invisible to the naked eye, what do I see when I scry on him? No result, an empty room, or something else? What if they were in the Shadow instead? Or if a friendly mage cast some unveiling spell that let me see into twilight/across the gauntlet first?

    Similar question, If another mage has given me the ability to...
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  • Hold on! Have I been mentally doing this wrong! I had it in my head that mage sight let you perceive all spells, regardless of arcana?...
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  • Thanks again! I am looking at starting a game for a bunch of folk new to Mage in a few weeks and I am trying to sort all this stuff out in my head.

    Mind if I throw in a few other questions?

    On the topic of Veiling Spells: How do they work in combat? I get that an opposing Mage can call up his AMS for an instant Clash of Wills, but whats his options after that if he fails? Can I force more Clashes by casting Unveiling Spells searching for the hidden mage? IE A Mastigos who is 'Incognito' takes a pistol shot at a Moros, who calls up his AMS but fails to pierce the illusion....
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  • Thanks for the quick responses guys, having it be an alternative option should be good for my table.

    While I have your attention, can you guys clarify something for me. 2 questions about Supernal Veil.
    1. My read of this was that if you cast this spell on yourself or another mage, you can be hidden from mundane sense as well as supernatural ones? Along the same principle that a Matter Mage can use the Veiling Practice to make a building unnoticeable. Some players were confused because the description doesn't spell it out. (Also how do you stunt this effect narratively? Are...
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  • Is their any reason why an Apprentice of Prime cant create a Shielding effect that forces any hostile magic aimed at her to provoke a Clash of Wills (An effect akin to a Space Ward) as a more 'all or nothing' alternative to Wards and Signs?...
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  • Question: Why does Incognito presence require Mana expenditure when equivalents like Invisibility or Supernal Veil do not? Is it a pure balance thing?
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  • Not yet, we haven't started playing! I was just using an over the top example to make sure my question was clear. It does make shapeshifting an interesting combat tactic. I suppose nothing stops a Life Adept morphing into Dinosaurs or other extinct animals? What about fantastical beasts that don't otherwise exist? (Obviously Disbelief could rapidly become a factor.)
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  • Katana1515
    started a topic Shapeshifting, Size and Health

    Shapeshifting, Size and Health

    Apologies if this seems obvious, but since a characters Health Levels are determined by Size (usually 5) + Stamina, what happens when a Life Adept Shapeshifts into a size 30 whale? Does he now have 30+Stamina health levels? That makes some sense to me, since using life 3 to give yourself extra Stamina does give you more Health Levels. I just wanted to check.
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  • All the options listed sound cool. Heres something similar I threw together at the request of a player a few days back. Its intended to let him 'record' what he sees through his glasses for later playback. I was probably a little lenient when I made this, so run by your GM before use.

    Name: Record and Display
    Forces: 2 Practice: Ruling
    Primary Factor: Duration
    Cost: 1+ Mana
    By refining his control of both light and sound an Apprentice of Forces can bind visual information into a physical format for later playback.
    The mage must imbue the desired recording...
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  • Katana1515
    replied to Ammunition Check survey
    Will have to join the 'Never kept track of ammo' club, it wasnt something either of my PCs with ranged attacks cared to do, and it didn't seem to add anything to introduce it. We would happily track 'special' or 'magical' ammunition though (like some custom smoke bombs or 'salt infused' anti-ghost slingbullets our twilight created)
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  • Katana1515
    replied to 1001 Mage Story Hooks
    If it gets in the way of a cool scenario, scrap it. That's my opinion anyway,after all the World of Darkness is full of exceptions to general rules. I think Mages call them Mysteries?

    Totally agree on SoS though....
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  • Katana1515
    replied to 1001 Mage Story Hooks
    128) While tracking a Sleeper they think is close to Awakening the Cabal is drawn into his Mystery Play as actors. Its a Mastigos Awakening and Hell is whispering in the PCs ears, telling each one of a step on the road he has to take to succeed. The Acanthus has to get him angry enough to murder someone, then present him with the opportunity to do it and get away with it. The Mastigos has to make him fall head over heels in love with him, only to utterly dash his hopes and tear up his illusions. The Moros comes last, he has to to remind him of his greatest fear, then give him the choice of mastering...
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  • Katana1515
    replied to Magic and Outer Space.
    Making that kind of trip is an epic enough journey that I would allow it based on rule of cool alone....
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  • Katana1515
    started a topic Pitch me your campaign ideas

    Pitch me your campaign ideas

    I might be looking to run my first 2nd ed game sometime in the first few weeks. I love the system and the second, but a bit dry on inspiration for a big ideas as far as plots go.
    Looking at using London as a setting, because I love the idea of Runewalks as introduced in the Corebook.

    So pitch me your idea's for disasters, calamities, world shaking events, existential mysteries or other epic things that I can drop on old london town?...
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  • A worked example of Social Maneuvering

    Cant quite get my head around this social system. In the past I have usually found that an example of a subsystem in play is the best way for me to get things to click.

    Can anyone link me to such a thing? Preferably with some spellwork involved so I can see how Magic interacts with it?

    If anyone goes so far as to write one for me they will have my eternal thanks....
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  • Katana1515
    replied to Magic and Outer Space.
    I think Old Mages issues with Magic in Space were mostly to do with how Magick was linked to things like Paradigm and Consensual Reality, issues that arent overly relevant to NMage. I don't see any particular issues with spell casting in space, aside from it being somewhat impractical of course. Also it might be a tad dull, unless your ST is planning to throw some X-Files stuff into your Occult Horror game?

    If you have a PC who wants to visit other planets, I might recommend taking a plunge into the Astral Seas and touring their reflections in the Temenos. Adventure AND Enlightnenment...
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  • Katana1515
    replied to Awakening Spriits
    Thanks, thats a good answer!
    One thing I would still be unsure of is how much Essence such a spirit is likely to have stored in its pattern? Assume we have the unremarkable Rank 1 House Spirit, thats never been animated or self aware before. Would it have any essence at all? Could I pump it up with essence in advance to make the casting easier?...
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    Last edited by Katana1515; 04-24-2017, 07:21 AM. Reason: another question.

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  • Katana1515
    replied to Awakening Spriits
    Anyone now of any sample spirits statlines you could use as inspiration for this? Rouse Spirit states that the Potency of the spell needs to be equal to the Spirits Corpus - its current essence, but I frankly have no clue what either number would be for say a 30 year old two story semi-detached house?...
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