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  • anda
    replied to Serbia in VTM?
    I've browsed a few books and I couldn't really find anything specific on Serbia. There is a lot of text about Easter Europe though, mostly Hungary but also neighbouring countries. I assume that Serbia would replicate a lot of the theme set for those countries. Most suiting text I could find was in Guide to the Sabbat, page 23.
    "Eastern Europe, with the Russian territories and the former Ottoman provinces, is almost a seperate continent as far as vampires are concerned. Here, the hoary Tzimisce ply the ancient ways of the clan, some even existing still as feudal overlords in crumbling...
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  • anda
    replied to Victorian Brujah in the UK
    Well London by Night contains a few Brujah, and yes Don Cerro and his childe Theo Bell are two of them. Although, Bell is embraced as late as 1857, so the book is probably set at much later date than the 1840's. Other than them you have Paul Bedwell (10th gen) who is an agent for the Prince of Manchester and you also got Herbet Westin (also 10th generation) who is a anarchist infiltrator.
    Apparently the Brujah that dwells near the docks in East End London has a bad rep. There is a little story there about a Brujah called Cappie and his Brujah wife Mags. The Victorian Age corebook pg 134....
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    Well aren't both Set and Osiris vampires? And the others... well, did they really have any influence in WoD? If they did, why did their influence go away? Cuz I mean, Set's influence is still very much alive but that's cuz he's a vampire. I think I have to dwell on this one, see if I can spot any text in the books that places any of the other egyptian gods on the list....
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    I had to think about that one for a bit, but I think so yes. I could surely classify her as a pagan goddess. Good one!
    I guess that kinda opens up the door for the Crone as well and her Lihannan worshippers. Cuz I don't think she's been labeled as something in vampire lore....
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    I probably would. I haven't read State of Grace but I think my brother got the book so I have to look into it before I could confirm. But the fact that he's completely made up doesn't bother me as long as he's real in WoD and fits all other criterias for belonging on the list. Thanks, I got some reading to do!...
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    Do you mean the children? If so then yes, if we would use a Baali beliefsystem then pagan gods could very well be explained as the children. But that theory only sticks if we actually buy the monotheismic idea of there only being one true god in WoD. I feel no need to have theories tho that could explain what a pagan god really is, I wanna keep them as pagan gods ...
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    Thanks, will do! Oh my reason is that I wanted to make like a small compendium about various gods from a Vampire perspective, just a fun lore project really. Undefined deities intrigue me, and I love when WW kinda suggest that there is more than just the one All mighty. However I wanted too see if there was enough gods to do such a project....
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  • anda
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    I love the character Ilias! It's been ages since I read the novel, but I checked in Road of Sin and I didn't really find anything else than his title being that god's priest. So based on just that, I would say that it's not enough. Or was there anything in the novel that stood out to you that would suggest that Jarilo being anything more than something Ilias believes in, something that presents him as something that actually has some type of influence or power in WoD?...
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    Yes, that's what I think absolutely. But then the real god Mithras doesn't provide anything to the Vampire game line other than being an inspiration for a false god. And that doesn't give him credibility to fit the list. The gods that I'm after needs to be something more in the WOD than an idea, belief or a name that just pops up. There need to be some type of text in the books that makes one suspect that this god might actually be real.
    I'll give an example of how I'm thinking. We have Qarakh as an example. He worship Father Tengri, a mongolian god from his breathing days on the steppe....
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    I stated earlier that he's known as many things. In Demon he's said to be Earthbound but in Werewolf something else. So there is no final answer even if I would consider the other game lines. However I don't. I'm only looking at the Vampire game line, and we don't really know what Kupala is. But to present him as a pagan god in Vampire doesn't seem too far fetched considering the what we know about him in the Vampire game line.

    Never heard of Koschei and the seven Zmeï, so please do eleborate. Are they in Vampire books and do they have any influence that goes beyond being name dropped?...
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    Oh nice! Veles might work cuz of his cainite cult. Have to do my research on the subject, but a great catch. Thank you!...
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    I'm collecting material on pagan gods in the world of darkness, but only for the vampire game line. I don't put any weight on how much fiction went into them, as long as there is material on them in the books and that they play a big enough role to actually be considered real....
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  • anda
    replied to Pagan Gods in VtM
    @ChristopherZacher
    Well if that's stated then that's probably the case and shouldn't be on the list. Not looking for vampires but dieties not yet explained in Vampire. Thanks tho for the input, haven't read the Victorian Novels yet so I love hearing stuff from them.

    @Monalfie
    Gaia, Luna, and Helios. Aren't they from the Werewolf game line? I'm looking for pagan gods that has or had impact in the Vampire game line.

    @Lian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kupala
    But it doesn't really matter since in Vampire, it surely is a diety that's worshipped long...
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    Last edited by anda; 10-05-2017, 01:25 PM.

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  • anda
    started a topic Pagan Gods in VtM

    Pagan Gods in VtM

    I'm trying to make a list of pagan gods in Vampire the Maquerade, and so far I only got four names so I was really hoping to get some help from the forums. I'm only seeking pagan gods that hasn't been proven to be vampires, so Odin the All-High for example doesn't fit the list. He's a pagan god no doubt but also we know him as a Gangrel Methuselah. Same goes for Mithras, which is a pagan god but an ancient Ventrue. I'm looking for "real" pagan gods, or atleast not yet proven vampires. I'm also not after just a list of pagan gods that VtM hasn't yet made vampires, but they also need to...
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  • anda
    replied to Ideas for a Sabbat siege.
    Same here to be honest so my memory is also weak. But I remember in the Toreador novel that you really got this grand contrast of the Camarilla and the Sabbat. You had this fancy Toreador ball full of etiquette and political scheming. Then the monstrous Sabbat crashed the party. The room went black, chaos spread as someone yelled LASOOOMBRAA! They really made effort to portray the Sabbat as really creepy. I also think the novel showed how hard it was for the Sabbat to be organized. You really had these strong willed different personas and warpacks, one freakier than the other, and they had to...
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    Last edited by anda; 09-27-2017, 09:46 AM.

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  • anda
    replied to Ideas for a Sabbat siege.
    Have you read clan novel Toreador and Tzimisce? They both capture a Sabbat siege from different perspective. Very inspirational.
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  • Most likely the painters' artistic freedom. I tend to avoid looking for mechanics in stuff like this.
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