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  • Ben Linus
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    With some research it is easy to create South American Fellowships. The problem is that you can do all with combinations of pillars already established, mixing them.
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  • I did not think I would stagger like that and above all I could not get my idea right, so I kept trying to be clearer. In fact I should have addressed this topic in another topic and in another part of the forum. In CotD in general and not in werewolf .. Much less in Night Horrors.



    Because I was referring to how the concept is treated in our reality, in our culture (and hence the signs it was using) to say that I believe that the subject was not being translated formally in the Chronicles (since all concepts in the game are based in elements of mythology, pop culture...
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  • What I am trying to say is that they are both creatures, so many supernal beings as spirits resemble certain attributes which in our folklore of our reality are described to goetic spirits, which is the variation used to describe all the demons or nearby things that appear in the CotD except those from Descent.

    I would find it more interesting to have something for the other cultural variations in the Inferno (such as those of Buddhism, Mayas and Persians - which are immensely different from each other, but resemble the demons described in CotD because they have free will and are...
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  • Lack of clarity is more about having linguistic resources than bad faith.

    I tried to be as clear as I can be and just tried to clarify my view of distortions with each post....
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  • This is basically the same thing as a goetic spirit. It just does not have the same meaning as a werewolf spirit. And no problem, the supernal beings and the spirit of the shadow have to be that way, beings with mechanical mentality, essentialist (they are malignant yes, since this is a human definition) attached to the function as a cog.

    This does not match with any description of demons in the traditions that use them (and I am not talking about Christian demons), such as the Buddhist, Mayan, "pagan" and Persian tradition, that we have beings fully aware of their deeds...
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  • About India I would like to know at least in note who are the Monarchs and Lords of there within the system of monarchies of Dark Ages Vampire in 1230.

    Who would you think would have these functions and territories?
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  • Li Hai I gave a study before the previous post about martial arts, a subject I do not really know, based on David A. Ross's book on the subject. Already about Taoism (and how a centralized Buddhism that inspires arts of centralized orderly discipline is not something really Taoist) I understand a little bit by way of a temple....
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  • But the natives of both places are alike. One with more focus on punishing and the other on corrupting, but all are evil goetic spirits.
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  • It would even be interesting to be clear the difference between Inferno and Pandemonium.
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  • I do not like this goetia meaning of Inferno. There are already several kingdoms that perform this function and could by the Maeljin in any of them and give them importance.

    The Inferno should be something primordial, before the universe, as the Persians treated them.
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  • The Inferno should be dissociated from them as well.
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  • delete this post.
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  • Ben Linus
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    News Fellowships

    Which Fellowships do you miss?

    It would be interesting some development for the famous oriental organizations Taftani and Itajarana. Something similar to the Vaelderman for the Japanese flavor. If there was a Dark Ages China, I believe that the Fellowships should be, Messianic Voices, directed to Taoism and Buddhism (mainly Buddhism), the Celestial Hierarchy with Pillars and Foundation similar to the Order of Hermes but with extremely different History, Philosophy and Organization. And a set of Taoist Alchemy Trades without central organization with only philosophy, pillars and foundation...
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  • This information is wrong. Both these martial arts and such films have very little relation to Taoism (any of its many meanings, from formal religion, to influence over other religions or Chinese religiosity, its alchemy and mysticism, its metaphysical or secular philosophy, old or current - including the Taoist liberalism that mixes classic Scottish liberalism with modern Taoism, or the Taoism inherent in tradition or families). They derive much more from Confucianism, in the sense of hierarchy and rigid order, order fighting against chaos (not against the extreme), austere discipline, Movie...
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  • A Purpose I disagree with Dexter's interpretation. Before, he clearly followed a Path of Enlightenment. There is no concern if what he does is good, not to try to be human, nor to justify failures. It has rules and must comply and if it fails it will be consumed by the dingy passenger. In the Fifth and Sixth Season that have tried to make him more human, therefore contradictory, but he can not afford to be contradictory, he has to follow his rules or he will be nothing more than an empty shell. And it is the selfish interest in not being an empty shell that guided him.
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  • Religions of antiquity bring the notion of freedom by being a good subject, something that is contradictory to modern perception but in the ancient mystical sense is coherent within its own logic.

    The Sabbat should not be thought out of its mystical structure, the name itself refers to something that is not mundane.
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  • The Sabbat never spoke of freedom in the modern sense of freedom, any liberal, socialist or Enlightenment concept is wrong.

    The Sabbat is the sum of an inverted Catholic heresy with a blood cult heresy of Eastern Europe. Freedom has a mystical meaning. Freedom is Death. No forms of non-life or communitarianism or diversity. It is destruction because they believe that everything in this world is doomed to perish to the Antediluvians, everything in this world is enslaved to their will, everything has already been consumed now and not only in the apocalypse, everything must be killed...
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  • Do the Chinese you know have never found this concept weird and used these comparisons?

    The Sino-Brazilian from my desk (with Chinese-born parents) thinks.
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  • There you are taking extraordinary (extra-human) deeds as Magic. If it is on this side any western gunslinger is also.

    In the film such feats are not treated as something mystical in no time.

    I really would like to know the difference. Why is it an impossible feat that a character played by an action actor in a martial arts movie is said to be magic and the same is done by a western gunslinger or the ability to fight to shoot axes in a way that is not possible? What's the difference?

    They are neither sacred warriors, as the Mesopotamians and Mayans had....
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  • Vaeldeman can use Magic for War, but his magic is not made for it. Having a wizard factions that integrate magic into your fight is one thing, now that they do magic for that purpose is cheap stereotype and not a good search. It's not offensive, but it's lazy. I understand the context of the 1990s where this sounded good as research and have something deeper than this is difficult, but today it sounds like a cheap search.

    This is one of the reasons Dark Ages Mage is better than the Mage Ascension.
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