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  • unnatural1
    replied to An alternate Olympus/Dodekatheon/Theoi
    ​The Inferno was also basically Dante's self-insert fanfic in which he was the star character and got to hang out with his favorite historical figures. It has next to no actual mythological value.

    ​But don't take my word for it! This lady does a much better job of breaking down Dante's works than I ever could! Enjoy!

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  • unnatural1
    replied to An alternate Olympus/Dodekatheon/Theoi
    Oops. Yeah, that's probably why....
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  • unnatural1
    replied to An alternate Olympus/Dodekatheon/Theoi
    Huh. Then I wonder why Jews also don't believe in embalming their dead? You'd think they'd be kind of obsessive about keeping the body as intact as possible?...
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  • unnatural1
    replied to An alternate Olympus/Dodekatheon/Theoi
    One important fact that often gets left out of the Arachne story: Arachne wasn't really punished for weaving a better tapestry than Athena. She was punished because the tapestry she wove portrayed the Gods in somewhat unflattering ways. She was punished for mocking the gods, not for being a better weaver than Athena....
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  • unnatural1
    replied to Which New Pantheons do you want?
    An idea for an American "Pantheon" that I've tossed back and forth with a friend of mine?

    ​America doesn't have a true "pantheon" ruling it. What it has is a collection of folk heroes who are all Scions of various Pantheons who made names for themselves over here. Of these Scions, very few of them (if any) have achieved true godhood yet. They're all still Demigods, at best. Thus? They don't have a Godrealm yet and aren't powerful enough to be considered a real threat to the other Pantheons, so they're largely ignored. This "American Pantheon" works...
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  • unnatural1
    replied to Ask Neall
    The Sage Calling also has a good bit to do with magical expertise, doesn't it? Isis has it.

    ​Oh! And the preview mentioned that Isis' power may have a lot to do with the fact that she knows Ra's true name.
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  • Sun Wukong is pretty much guaranteed to be in the Shen, I think it's safe to say.

    ​Come to think of it? The Shen have Sun Wukong. The Devas have Hanuman. Is there any connection between the two that we know of? Could we theoretically have TWO trickster monkey gods? Or will one end up being a Mantle of the other?
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    Agreed.

    ​Although if the fire from Heaven's Fire has the "Aggravated" tag, one assumes that means it deals Aggravated damage to pretty much everything. Unless, of course, there's a "Fireproof" tag, or something that can be added to certain things....
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    ​To quote an old sidebar from Scion 1E: "This game isn't called Sci-ence!" ...
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    ​Right. I need to start remembering to say "tier" not "level."

    ​Also? If I recall correctly, that "So, so much" line from Vance was him answering the question of just how badly Hero-tier Boons can mess up your day. And boy howdy, does it look like Vance was not kidding. Hero-tier Fire lets you sling Aggravated damage around like it's going out of style. Fertility lets you curse entire families with poor health or even death. Forge lets you reassemble even completely destroyed items.

    ​Can't wait to see what Sky or Health can do!...
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    One thing I noticed after re-reading the Fire Boons again? Heaven's Fire mentions that the fire attacks you can use have the "Aggravated tag."

    ​Should long-term players of WOD games assume that to mean that these attacks deal Aggravated damage, as we have seen in many WW/OP games? Or does "Aggravated" mean something different in Scion 2E?

    ​Because if it does mean Aggravated damage, then wow! Unlimited ranged Agg-attacks for a single dedicated Legend point? And this is a Hero-level Boon? Sheesh! Do I even want to guess what God-level Fire Boons...
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  • unnatural1
    replied to The Tone of Scion
    ​Her creator's original idea was to say that ANY woman can be a Wonder Woman. In the Golden Age, all Amazons could do what Diana could do. Diana was just the best of them, which is why she won the contest to return Steve Trevor to Man's World and become Wonder Woman.

    ​And even after the Golden Age, the Amazons still do have super powers. They are just shown inconsistently because DC doesn't care about Wonder Woman or her world. Certainly not to the extent that they care about Batman and his world, at any rate. So the Amazons are often used for cannon fodder in stories and their...
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  • unnatural1
    replied to The Tone of Scion
    ​Rebirth appears to be bringing back the clay origin, though it hasn't been fully confirmed.

    ​And no, Diana's powers have never been tied to her relics. In the Golden Age, her power came from "Amazon Training" which was a form of discipline that allowed her to channel psychic energy through her body, allowing her to perform superhuman feats. In the Silver Age, Bronze Age, and post-Crisis Age, her powers were blessings bestowed upon her by the gods. In the New 52, she became the daughter of Zeus, and her power came from that. Now, with Rebirth, we're not sure, but nothing...
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    ​Yeah, but since that only appeared in one myth, it's possible that great strength isn't necessarily a defining trait for Hulder. Maybe the one in that myth just had a pretty high Strength rating, or something....
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    ​Could be. I suppose it's also possible they'll work it in so that both the classical mythology aspects and the Gaiman stuff will apply. I mean, there isn't anything in this preview that makes it impossible for the classical stuff to apply, after all....
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    Right! And Gaiman's work has already been specifically mentioned as one of the big inspirations for 2E! That's probably where that part is coming from....
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    ​Well, according to our good friend, Wikipedia, that's certainly one facet of it. In general, it appears to just be a series of self-discipline practices. Meditation and study are also valid austerities, it would seem....
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  • unnatural1
    replied to April update and preview
    Yeah, delays are always disappointing, but it seems like it's a delay that will be worth it in the end. And if Neall and his team deliver on this promise that the delay is a mere weeks or months at worst, then that's just a relatively minor delay that will ultimately make the game better in the long run. When we finally get these PDFs, and they're all kinds of amazing, I'm sure none of us will spend much time dwelling on a short delay.

    ​And these latest previews are AWESOME!

    ​I love the Satyr types. Each one is really unique and distinct from the others, and I...
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