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  • Why not for auspex 2?
    Anyway, what could a lecit question be in this case? If you would like to uncover a secret with which to leverage him in example.

    EDIT: is asking for the place where the target lie during the day a valid qiuestion? Should the answer just give a generic place (like showing the furniture in the heaven) or making the Auspex user perfectly aware on how to reach the heaven?...
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    Last edited by Marcus; 05-19-2018, 12:26 PM.

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  • It was a kind of what I was supposing. Thanks

    Other question not related to this topic:

    Is "what is his deepest secret" a lecit Auspex 2/3 question? Or should it be more specific?

    I'm wondering about this since it seems a way too powerful but, a sample question is exactly as much generic as this: what is one of this person's psycological vulenrability....
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  • We are running a game in 1100 a.D. Costantinopoli setting. A player of mine, ex soldier of the Roman empire, wants now to have a personal group of soldiers (5 guards), always with him, possibly Ghouls and above the average.
    I'm here asking to you for some advice on how to rule/play this.

    1) Is there a merit to represent this or should be it just played ghouling some soldiers?

    2) What could the consequences be to go around the city with armed and armored soldiers, not anymore belonging to the city army?

    Since he has taken the merit realted to the shield...
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  • Marcus
    replied to Question about predatory aura
    I agree with Maina about the two sample questions.
    About the first one, in the specific, auspex is providing you the weakness to use in order to obtain what you asked for: "The sound of jingling coins from the victim’s pocket." Meaning that is corruptible with money.

    The second is clearly a potential danger like someone being obfuscated.

    I'm not completely contrary asking who has the highest BP but I feel it a little out of topic and borderline. But it's a personal feeling more than a belief....
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  • Frenzy gives more problem than it solves indeed, but not even can we consider it as self-destructive (exactly in the same way as a lonely, starved wolf, wouldn't jump in the middle of an herd of buffalo:

    - Frenzy with a your coterie member means you are gonna feed from him; kill him to death if the frenzy is about angry.
    - Starved/angry in presence of your touchstone/lover/family means kills them
    - Frenzy in a mall/street means kills everyone, fucking the masquerade
    - Frenzy to escape from a danger means using celerity under the sight of everyone, smashing any obstacle...
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  • Again, that's just your interpretation.

    In general, there are plenty of example where a not stupid and self suicide Beast would like to dominate. Such as there are plenty of example where dominate would be the only way to achieve the goal.

    The trapped vampire is a perfectly lecit reason for frenzy, at least because, first or after, she will get starved... and frenzy, by raw, does not end until you achieve the goal, that obviously you cannot achieve if you are not able to break the cage.

    I can also see a vampire with no physical disciplines and bp 1 (that...
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  • As I read this is that it's actually a loss of control for the Vampire because is the BEAST that takes control. The difference is even not so subtle.
    Obviously we are focusing on Dominate and Majesty but the same can be applied to every other discipline: Nightmare, Animalism etc...
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  • So, according to the example of mine it seems that if the frenzy has been provoked by the desire to escape, it will never ends until the vampire achieve its goal (escaping).
    That's said, even if it's going to end after a scene, that's doesn't imply that, using dominate, is not representing the most direct and immediate way to get free for the Beast.



    My players used when in Frenzy against enemies they cannot overwhelm with just physical attribute and in a lot of other occasions. Always under the principle: Is this the most direct and violent way to achieve your...
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  • Agree with Charlaquin.

    I'm trapped in a cage I cannot break with frenzy bonuses, instead to hit the steal bars with my head, I would rather dominate the jailer to let me free. It's not just immediate, it's the only thing I can do to achieve my goal. Then I can give such a command snarling and dribbling...but still.
    Anything you said hasn't let me change my idea for even a second.
    So go for your interpretation but be aware that it's not the only and absolute truth, it's just your interpretation. A truth would have been if the text would have said: While frenzy you can just...
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  • Ok maybe I wasn't clear. I convey with you saying that, if it's not a sure death condamn, the frenzy will jump to the throat and stop. I'm just saying that, in an hypotetical scenario, where the vampire is sourronded by whatever potentially lethal for him, let's say an army, and she get frenzy for hunger, she will not jump on the throat of the first policeman/soldier, she could instead use disciplines to lead someone apart. Then feeding as much violently as possible.
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  • That is the opposite that happens to an human when, under the effect of adrenaline because of whatever reason, he can give its best not feeling (obviously under certain "human limits") pain, hunger, weakness, sickness etc.
    And again it is opposite to what the mechanic of the Frenzy would suggest: adding blood potency to any physical action (even if starved), just like adrenaline "does".

    Here, we are arguing on the fact that the Beast is acting in a way where it is not allowed or able to use her full powers because its blindness and violent way to act, not...
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  • I think it's different here, quite the opposite indeed: You cannot ask a polished manuscript by a sleepy novelist because the novelist is not in her best shape (her brain is sleepy). On the contrary, the Beast is sleeping while the MAN is in control. When she lose the control you have the very Beast, as its top, like you have the very Novelist when she is as more awake as possible.
    Yes a man can lose his brain (madness, aging,..) and the faculty to create literature, but it's actually the opposite that happens when the Beast take the control of the man.
    By the way, mine and yours are...
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  • I agree with Ventrue Life here.
    As I already said in the first post of mine, there are 3 kind of predatory aura, and the text specifically says Frenzy vampire can lash out and not: can lash out with Bestial aura. Lashing out is violent and immediate? Yes, sure. But each one in different way. Lashing out requires actions aligned with the chosen kind:

    - Bestial: not needing to specify this. It's obvious.
    - Seductive: A seductive Beast sidles up to the prey, whispers beautiful lies, or gives a telling
    gaze from across the crowd. (That's definitely not violent as you...
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  • No I'm not failing anything, I'm just providing my interpretation of the whole text as you are giving yours and in the same way you are citing pieces of text ( i.e.: WITH DESTRUCTIVE IMMEDIATE FORCEFUL ABANDON).

    WITH DESTRUCTIVE IMMEDIATE FORCEFUL ABANDON literally means that if there is the chance to achieve its goal, the beast will do as more direct, immediate and violent way as possible. BUT going on reading, the TEXT, it clearly say: IT'S NOT STUPID!!! So back again to the military example: if the Frenzy vampire is in front of an army - read as heavy armed people - ( a riot or...
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  • Reading is not something belonging from the Beast but from the human side of the vampire. So it's perfectly understandable why a dragur shouldn't be able to read.

    If we want to literally analyze the text:

    "the vampire does everything in her power to accomplish the Beast’s desires"
    Disciplines (Dominate and Majesty included exactly in the same way as Vigor/Celerity are) are exactly the definition of vampire's powers and, moreover, the Beast's powers.

    " the Beast isn’t stupid."
    That's said, biting, punching, killing someone...
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    Last edited by Marcus; 04-26-2018, 03:10 PM.

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  • Back to the ability to use dominate/majesty while in Frenzy: these disciplines are the Beast's will and charm extension. Why when the Beast takes the control shouldn't be able to use its own power?
    Is just changing the way she use them, I would say even more freely and istinticvely than the vampire would do.
    "A whisp in the dark: *come to me...*, an hand stretch through you under the moon ray. And you leave your friends to get down into the dark cellar"
    Even with my poor english it sounds pretty much horrorific and Bestial to me.
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  • Marcus
    replied to Belial's Brood in 2nd Edition
    I'm with Charlaquin interpetation on this topic but I can see that in 2ed, riding the wave, could be mechanically intended as needing a pre-existing stimulus.
    But I would also say that, every situation that really matter and would be needed of a riding the way, represent a stimulus:
    - escaping from hunters/werewolf (you are risking your life...)
    - fighting hunter/werewolf (again, you are risking your life)
    - your prey is running away from you (what a shame if you'd fail the hunt)
    - take your hand close to a candle (fire)
    - trapped in a building needing the...
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    Last edited by Marcus; 04-26-2018, 12:59 PM.

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