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  • I just downloaded the revised version; How can Hezekiel of Sodom, p. 116, have Force of Nature without Protean?
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  • Marcus
    replied to Requiem's Novels
    I'm sorry, I misunderstood the Rose's words. I actually understood it is a huge inspiration for the 2ed game not it were. My fault. Pardon ...
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  • Marcus
    replied to Requiem's Novels
    I'm reading the Marriage of Virtue and Viciousness novel and I'm wondering if it's really about 2ed.
    If my bad english assists me I think that Auspex is still about aura reading, dominate works as per 1ed.

    Bu the way it's a nice novel, even if I see its vampires too human (even elder) and little horrorific and alien creatures, with something really inspirational; but I don't want to spoiler anything....
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  • Marcus
    replied to Requiem's Novels
    Many thanks to everyone.

    I'm going to buy the trilogy just to start:

    A Hunger Like Fire
    Blood In, Blood Out
    Marriage of Virtue & Viciousness

    That's a pity they are just in pdf and not even in epub/mobi like silent knife.
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    Last edited by Marcus; 10-03-2017, 07:10 AM.

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  • Marcus
    replied to Requiem's Novels
    I understand, thank you for your advise.
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  • Marcus
    started a topic Requiem's Novels

    Requiem's Novels

    How many novels have been written for requiem? I read Silent knife. Are there others? Can you provide a list with a brief description/Critique (just one or two sentences) for each novel/book/story?

    If there aren't many novels specifically for requiem, even for Masquerade/Dark Age could be useful.

    I would need some inspiration source, also as regards disciplines usage (how to describe or use them in several/original way).

    Thanks.
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  • Feeding the Chrone - Cruac rite level 4...
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    No, I disagree here, spilling blood on a target lead the animals to feed it from its body that is nothing less then an attack. The meaning is that, if not spilled directly on a person, you have to wait for them to feed it then another turn to command them to do something; which is not so much valuable in a fight. Otherwise spilling on a person lead them to attack him wothout a specific command (read: a turn less)....
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    Well, lets add birds+rats+ cats (+ dogs)... and it's not rare to see flock of bird in the city sky. Furthermore the swarm tilt from descent talk about 8 yard range of animals of size 1 or 2 that it's less then 100 bird. I actually think that 100 is also a low number for this power....
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    So, why this discrimination through birds and rats? XD



    Yes and a valid command, citated also in the book in aninalism 1, is: Attack. Furthermore the specification of the possibility to splash the blood directly on a target, what other meaning could have if not to let him beeing attacked without a direct command, in the attempt of consume blood by the animals?...
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    About the celerity matter, so why to specify: only persistent effect.

    About swarm: so, if as you said, animalism come back to be the more useless discipline in vampire. But this a part, why, if the text states: every animals in range, you should not allow swarm? Do you want to consider an hundred of birds, rats and whatever, one by one? I think swarm tilt is the best fitting thing and in Descent manual is specified that it's also valuable to other supernatural creatures then demons....
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    I can fairly understand Vigor but still missing celerity (persistent) effect how it is involved.
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    That's a good point actually. Well even if a flock of birds crashing the windows to get inside would be so cool ...
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    Ok, I got your point, but insects or not it shouldn't change the situation since, by rule, even animals of size 1 or 2 (cats, pigeons, crows, birds in general, rats, snakes etc.) are considered as Swarm when in big quantity.

    Yes, humans are animals but covered by domination because their complexity. Non the less animalism 4 acts also on them...
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    Summon the hunt can summon ANY animal in the range, even insects, since:



    and insects are: animals for sure but also: predators (spider mantis...) or scavengers.

    All such animals from several city blocks/hundred meters actually forms a swarm. I really can't see any point why they shouldn't.
    Furthermore:



    so that splashing blood on another person will lead the animals to automatically go on him to consume blood....
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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    Oubliette:
    3 vitae for a small house, 9 for a big Mansion. Last Blood Potency Weeks
    It give you the capability to Use every Obfuscate power at no cost, reflexively and on any number of target at once and from any distance; It last Blood Potency weeks.

    Force of Nature:
    8 vitae.
    - Move up to protean attributes at will (+4/5 to strength?)
    - Use any or all the transformation given by Protean 2, 3 and 4 reflexively and at no cost and all at the same time (You could have Horrid Talons, Wings, Barbed hands (+4/5 to grapple and lethal damages) all together and...
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    Last edited by Marcus; 09-27-2017, 08:46 AM.

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  • Marcus
    replied to Vermin flood
    If I can remember right you "divide" the animalism lethal damage, as you wish, between any number of target into the swarm. Not full damage to everyone, that is similar to the descent swarm that can arrive to deal 4 bashing to a single target if you command your swarm to concentrate to only one target.

    I'm not saying its not better, just I'm not sure it is worth of 10 vitae while with 5 vitae you can hipotetically survive a nike bomb (Juggernaut), with 8 you can have all the stuff from force of nature and so on.

    Furthermore, what does "with speed and intensity...
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    Last edited by Marcus; 09-26-2017, 04:06 PM.

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  • Marcus
    replied to Ghoul questions
    I think Elfive was providing the reading of the book according to your example to clarify what are the changes between your two points of view, not the reading of your example as you wrote it.
    But I could be wrong, in such case forgive me ...
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    Last edited by Marcus; 09-26-2017, 03:04 PM.

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  • Marcus
    replied to Ghoul questions
    I will let fall the rest of discussion since I said what I thought and you are free to interpret it as you wish. I don't mind. Maybe it's also my fault since English is not my native language and actually my English level really sucks.

    But, again, NO! I gave my opinion and specified that it can be wrong as well as could be your. I just told that, in a so huge game system, is normal for any human being, to miss/forget/whatever to state every single aspect of the game, or the ERRATA, FAQ would not exist at all. Saying so, I'm not blaming anyone, I'm simply answering to those that think...
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  • Marcus
    replied to Ghoul questions
    When I said logical/non logical I was simply referring to the attempt, made by Elfive and other, to explain their point of view compared this with the argumentation that they can just because the book doesn't say ghoul CAN'T learn devotions. I don't want to say which argumentation is correct but it's a matter of fact that logical argumentation comes when you try to demonstrate it (right or wrong), while just saying: "the book doesn't exclude they can so they can" it's not a logical argumentation (even if this is the intention of the developers and he is right in its interpretation)....
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    Last edited by Marcus; 09-26-2017, 08:40 AM.

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