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  • Well, since a boon can be a Condition or a Bonus, it will depend on the specifics of the Oath.
    Your A, B and C are good options and all can be correct.

    Option A for an Oath that includes a specific one-time action.
    Option B for bonus on rolls or things like that, on Oaths that include protecting something/someone/etc for a time.
    Option C for a Condition or Bonus, depending on the Oath.

    The player and you should discuss about the Boon.
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  • Horodrigo
    replied to Using Fate on Spirits
    Well, I think that Spirits are subject to Fate spells per the normal rules. Since I didn't saw any rule dictating otherwise.
    But I think that some spirits can't be affect by some Conditions and Tilts(Hexes), like, you can't blind a spirit that does not need to see.

    As per the Sympathetic Links. I also think that this rules apply normally. On the Fallen World Chronicles there is a strange Tree that has multiple destinies attached to it and a spirit habitating it.
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  • Horodrigo
    replied to Alternate Legacy Attainments
    Well, they also give you some cool Paradox-free magic.
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  • Horodrigo
    replied to Copycat mages
    Let's see. Life 1 for Enhanced Senses with Reach for tracking.
    Add some Forces for tracking soundwaves and wi-fi signals.
    Time to ignore the penaltys due to the age of the trail.
    And, of course, Space, to get Sympathy and find the subject.

    This can also be done just with Space, but I wanted to use more arcanas for the flavor....
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  • Horodrigo
    replied to Copycat mages
    Let's start with the basics.

    How you would copy the passive powers each splat has?

    Vampire: Downgrade lethal dmg, has a bite attack that can harm or cause pleasure, addictive and healing blood.
    Werewolf: Enhanced senses, 5 different forms, can Reach and talk to spirits.
    Changeling: Can seal Oaths, has a Kith and a Mien(and a Mask to not be detected as inhuman), can enter the Hedge.
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  • Well, I saw a player use this as a sort of "Iron Fist" escaping the jail thing. He just blew the door open with Precise Force and a kick, since an Attainment is similar to a spell but don't follow the same rules, we play as it not triggering Paradox/Quiescence/etc....
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  • Horodrigo
    replied to Copycat mages
    Let's start with something fun.

    Two 2ed Ed Changeling Contracts:
    Discret Conjuration and Hidden Reality

    Discret Conjuration (3 dot contract)
    The character reaches into a small location she cannot see into, such as a handbag or a drawer and pulls out an item no larger of Size 1. This item can be anything the character has seen or handled before. The item is the most basic of its kind, but fully functional and ready to use — a camera takes pictures, a smartphone can make calls and access a wi-fi connection, and a gun shoots bullets from its fully loaded clip.
    ...
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  • Well, "Shifting the Odds" is a Fate 2 spell that can give you a merit for a brief period of time.
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  • I have a question about Uratha behavior. Let's say that there is a Locus on a forest and a group of Urathas have taken that as territory. Now theres this strange little group of teenagers that seems to somehow ignore the protection Rites and is going straight to the Locus. What the wolves do?

    1 - The forest is far from the civilization.
    2 - Wolf senses detect that the are just that, teenagers.
    3 - The Locus is Uratha territory and it is sacred.
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  • What exactly are the limits of Postcognition? Can I use it on an item to see the last time it was used? Can I use it on a person to see the same show she saw last night? I need to be on the same place that the specified event happened or not?
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  • Horodrigo
    replied to Hedge Ghost Familiar
    Do they have new Numinas? And thinking about that, it is possible to have a Hedge Spirit as well?
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  • Here is my take on the Daoine. I have inspired heavily on the work of Tiresias . But I got a little help from 21C Hermit as well.


    Daoine

    Origins

    Parentage: Acanthus
    Background: Daoine share a strong belief in justice, as both an abstract concept and as a natural law (what goes around, comes around). Even before Awakening, these men and women believed there was, or should be, a cosmic force ensuring that each person gets what he or she deserves in the end.
    Appearances: Not all Daoine are physically beautiful, but they often possess a magnetic...
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  • I have a question about the Fallen World Chronicles, but it has implications about the Lex Magica and stuff, since it has information about the reading, I'll put it with spoilers.
    On "The Intruder" Story, Diamante kills the other mage after discovering that she had probably killed a Sleeper in her attempt of escape. We (the readers) are told that this happens cause she needs to protect her Sanctum. Why? Is there any Lex Magica that killing a sleeper in desperate situations is punishable by death?
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  • From the book:
    When required, the Attainment is also considered to have acquired additional spell factors that would incur a penalty (if cast as a spell) up to the Attainment’s lowest prerequisite Arcanum.

    To get an additional spell factor you need a -2 penalty dice.
    So, having the Lowest Arcana involved at level 2 or 4 will give you +1 or +2 secondary spell factors.
    The examples showed in the book backup this, as having a Arcana of 5 involved you can bump +2 spell factors, to get Duration 3 (since it is already 1), and having Arcana 3 involved you only get +1 spell...
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  • Well, since they modify the Reach options, I think that no. On my last anwser I was referring to Optional effects based on your other Arcanas.
    I don't know if you can integrate the use of an Arcana Attainment on a Legacy Attainment. You probably can, but maybe as a fixed pre-requisite, since it alters how some Reach works....
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  • It took me a while to figure it out. Every time I try to understand a complicate rule I boil it to just mathematic formulas.

    Analyzing the sentence:
    When required, the Attainment is also considered to have acquired additional spell factors that would incur a penalty (if cast as a spell) up to the Attainment’s lowest prerequisite Arcanum.

    You have a additional spell factor that would incur a penalty up to the attainments lowest prerequisite Arcanum:
    Let's say that it is Mind 4
    So, the maximum penalty I can have is -4.
    -4 is penalty enough for getting...
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  • From the book:
    When required, the Attainment is also considered to have acquired additional spell factors that would incur a penalty (if cast as a spell) up to the Attainment’s lowest prerequisite Arcanum.
    So, yes. It's pretty much what you said.
    To get an additional spell factor you need a -2 penalty dice.
    So, having the Lowest Arcana involved at level 2 or 4 will give you +1 or +2 secondary spell factors....
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  • Let's put things in a simple way.
    You cast a Attainment Forces 5 spell.

    It has Primary Duration. So it will last for 10 turns or 1 year.
    You also has 5 automatic sucess if you need those for something.

    The thing is, if you need to increase another spell factor, let's say, Potency, you can increase +2 Potency.
    Why? Cause you need to get a penalty of -4 dices to do it, and you have a pool of 5 dices.

    So, your otherwise Duration 5, Potency 1 spell, can have Duration 5, Potency 3(1 + 2).

    And now let's get a little more complicated....
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  • From Mage, page 198:
    Automatic Activation


    So, Duration is increased based on the user Arcana Rating, and not on the Attainment Arcana Rating. The Attainment Arcana Rating is only for Reach.

    Fixed Reach...
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  • Horodrigo
    replied to Arcanum and the Infernal
    Well, if you are interested in some legacies, I made one specially for dealing with the Demons from Inferno.
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