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  • Thoth
    replied to Can Gargoyles have ghouls?
    I think one of the bigger issues is dealing with the blood requirements of having ghouls. A Gargoyle has greatly restricted feeding options compared to other clans and bloodlines.

    ​Their appearance means that they can't hunt in a social setting and the fact that Gargoyles are often portrayed as mentally slow means even if they had access to Obfuscate, they wouldn't exactly be able to go clubbing like a Nosferatu or Samedi. When it comes to humans as prey, a gargoyles best option is people suffering from Pygmalionism. But that is not exactly common or easy to find. While I don't...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Creating a Ghoul Animal
    ​As Nonsense said, most animals live in the present, so living a long time will be different for them than for humans. Lets face it, most dogs act like its been 200 years since you left for work/school and are finally returning home, hence why they are so glad to see you when you get back at the end of the day.

    ​However that is not to say that two centuries worth of experiences won't have an affect on the animal. For instance chances are the only contact with religious people the dog might have had are hunters, so the canine might become agitated if it catches the smell of incense...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Creating a Ghoul Animal
    Ghoul animals are kind of a special case. By default they just are loyal blood bonded pets who gain the occasional discipline dot and can be an option if the owner has animalism. The clan weakness tends to be a thematic option rather than a mechanical requirement, the exception being Nosferatu animal ghouls who have a tendency to mutate.

    ​I would start with figuring out the base stats for a normal example of the animal, then figure out how the time spent as a ghoul has changed the animal (new stats & disciplines), then I would try to figure out the personality of the critter...
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  • Thoth
    replied to "Our Vampires are Different"

    ​I think part of this is that you are looking at this from the meta position of having read everything and trying to force it through a modern mentality lens, rather than looking at it from the perspective of the supposed vampires. But lets look at the similarities, differences, and creation myths for a moment.

    Similarities
    ​Both can consume blood to survive
    ​Both avoid daylight (rot vs burning)
    ​Both have an internal emotional burden that comes with being undead (souls vs the beast)
    Both use constructed morality systems to avoid losing them
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  • Thoth
    replied to "Our Vampires are Different"
    Cainites and Kuei-Jin might have nifty super powers, heightened senses, and exceedingly long lifespans, but in the end, they are all still human beings. Now with that as a baseline let us consider how messed up humans are when it comes to knowing things or maintaining beliefs in the face of blatantly contradictory evidence.....um, yeah.

    ​To make matters worse, in the case of Cainites knowledge is hoarded and used like poker chips. The Kuei-Jin at least tend to have a more stable society that allows for the transfer of ideas and concepts. So it doesn't surprise me that knowledge...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Primogen problems
    ​The Tremere are a clan of pragmatists and the mutual blood bonding enforces a degree of loyalty. So with that in mind you can't look at Tremere as individuals nearly as much as they are a singular corporation. If one branch is under attack, the other sections add support if management gives the order.

    ​You could make the argument that Vienna would cut their losses and write off the struggling chantry, but that is a waste of recruits, waste of time, and most importantly a great way to have the entire group go rogue, which Vienna would have to spend further resources on hunting...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Tremere artifacts
    An alternative if you want the same result without worrying about mechanics is to use a template from one of the older edition homunculi that the tremere had running around their chantries. It would just be a homunculi that has a dagger form when it doesn't have its arms out or being expressive with its faces. This way you get the flight, the bite attacks, the blood consumption, the personal connection, and the degree of independent action.

    ​The one issue you might run into though is that a Phurba is technically a holy weapon designed on mystical principles to destroy corruption....
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  • Thoth
    replied to Primogen problems
    WilyQuixote Thanks for clearing things up, that helps a lot.

    ​Being clan Tremere means that the standard advice doesn't really apply for building up clan power. If a Brujah embraces three new members, that is three more people capable of hitting things harder or faster. It is a fairly straight forward power curve, but with Tremere the power curve gets wonky because so much of what makes a Tremere powerful is time and accumulated knowledge. Hence why mass embraces work for some clans but not others.

    ​Given that the city was infiltrated by sabbat, that means you won't...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Primogen problems
    ​If the scourge was doing their job, there wouldn't be overpopulation in the first place. Unless the Prince is actively unbalancing the population ratio, which brings us right back to the concept of why are they expecting equal treatment in this situation?

    Also most positions don't make any sense with population numbers. I mean a city like San Francisco would have like 5 vampires, total, not per clan. So many cities won't even have Primogen, they just have the local member of clan X. Forget about things like the court positions or the concept of Harpies. You wouldn't have Elysium,...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Primogen problems
    ​I'm with Beckett on this not making sense.

    ​Depending on clan there is no way to really keep track of clan numbers, good luck trying to track Malkavians or Nosferatu. In the case of other clans there are long histories of sending childer to other clan mates for training or other instruction. Thus if say a local Tremere chantry gained a new apprentice who was embraced elsewhere & by someone else, there really isn't anything the prince can say about granting a right to embrace.

    ​Bolstering numbers does not always mean embracing some one, you can just put in a...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Where in the World is Caine?
    Don't feel bad, that was my first thought as well ...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Unbalanced game problems
    ​Or engineers, chemistry majors, martial artists, ex soldiers, or any other job that gives technical skill and insight. I still have flash backs to the one time I let the engineering and chemistry kids have access to the path of alchemy/transmutation or the path of conjuring.

    ​As for the OP, step one take a breath, step two take another breath, step three..... you can guess.

    ​If I am understanding correctly, you are trying to ST for a group of players who see the game in a completely different way than you do. I have known my share of X% chance type of players and...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Vampires and Jail time
    ​By having a prison that is vampire controlled, you get some fairly important benefits.

    ​1. Recruitment pool for potential ghouls & childer
    ​2. Controlled food supply that you are paid to have on hand for years, if not decades at a time, got to love federal funding.
    ​3. Masquerade preservation as a place to have any vampire transferred to if they get caught by cops
    ​4. Many Prison Gangs have their entire leadership inside prisons, imagine what a sect or clan or perhaps even a single coterie could do if they blood bound / dominated / or just did business...
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  • Thoth
    replied to Vampires and Jail time
    There is another option to consider, namely that the jail is controlled by a given vampire sect or clan.

    ​In America there are many private company prisons, the population is controlled and no one believes the guilty. Given the history of using inmates as test subjects, it really isn't a stretch to have a vampire group controlling and running a prison. Perhaps even running an "isolation wing" for incredibly dangerous offenders, built below ground, no windows, etc.

    ​As for how to get a vampire into prison without the daylight being an issue, you would need...
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