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  • I assume a starter vampire would begin with a single account and build from there. As for having that $10,000 in seed money, that is about 1/2 to 1/3 the price a of car in most first world countries. So when liquidating your mortal life to make things more functional as a vampire having a lump sum of ten to twenty grand isn't unreasonable.

    But what exactly does it cost to be a vampire?

    Food is potentially free
    Vampiric healing means no medical bills or health insurance premiums
    Most of the time you don't need to heat or cool your haven
    Since you sleep...
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  • The tricky thing about discussing financial issues and vampires is that while we can use modern day prices and regulations as a guide, there is one main aspect that doesn't get focused on, specifically time and how vampires could operate.

    If you start with $10,000 and setup a bank account with a 10% return on investment per year (compounded annually), after 100 years that account will have grown to around $137,806,123.40 thus creating a form of wealth feedback loop. The more money you have, the more is generated in investments and bank account APRs. Sure you could lose money if a...
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  • The sad part is that such royal marriage practices only fell out of favor a couple hundred years ago, which means most vampires would come from a time when that was an acceptable and expected practice.

    Talking to the majority of vampires about modern morality is a lot like a modern pc gamer trying to tell a person who beat Battletoads on the NES how Dark Souls games invented difficult gaming....
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  • Thoth
    replied to Should Kuei-Jin be in V5?
    The funny thing is that several things in V5 were more or less taken from KotE. The concept of Coterie or Wu composition having mechanical interactions, the concept that like Demon Shintai disciplines are built with choices, etc.

    KotE will always be a niche game due to the cultural knowledge requirements on the part of the ST & Players to make it really click. Vampire on the other hand has been largely removed from any particular cultural influence on a game level from the start. Thus KotE will never be a flagship line for White Wolf, but it is an excellent side project that adds...
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  • Thoth
    replied to On the subject of radiation
    The "elephants foot" in Chernobyl would tend to disprove the requirement about glowing to be dangerous....
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  • Off the top of my head, the only incest issue with vampires is from Kindred of the East. Since the Kuei-jin can change their chi balance to a Yang aspect, they can breed with mortals and produce offspring. So on a social level the asian community family values would cause a fair amount of issues, though mechanically the resulting dhampyr would be more or less perfectly healthy because of their inherent luck manipulation. That same luck manipulation according to fluff can allow the dhampyr baby to be cut out of the mother at only 5 months and still survive and grow into a healthy adult apparen...
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  • Thoth
    replied to On the subject of radiation
    If you look back up at my original post, I stated that ionizing radiation is probably harmless to a vampire directly, the problem is all about the secondary affects of being a walking radiation source.

    The Scorpion Eater rules from KotE give us a possible guideline for how a vampire might interact with radioactive blood when feeding. For the record Iron Mountain, the KotE version of Fortitude didn't factor into any of the rolls regarding consuming tainted blood.

    There is an argument to be made that Fortitude of a certain level could some how reduce the amount of radiation...
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  • Thoth
    replied to On the subject of radiation
    You are more right than you know. With all this talk about radiation and vampires it jogged my memory of something that could give us at least a hint at some rules. It took me a while to dig through the books to find it.

    The Kindred of the East splats included a faction called The Scorpion Eaters, essentially they were betting on everything going to hell in a hand basket and adapted themselves to survive off of tainted chi sources, including chi tainted by radiation, in fact they have a Radiation Shintai (discipline).

    In their write up tainted chi has no nutritional value...
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  • Thoth
    replied to On the subject of radiation
    Um, "yes, no, maybe, and of course it depends" is the answer. Because science is awesome and annoying all at the same time.

    In the case of a nuclear explosion, you have enough x-rays to incinerate a vampire regardless of the radioactivity. Radiation burns can be either from a radioactive heat source or it can describe the cell damage that occurs when radioactivity kills the cells, hence why a radiation burn, a thermal burn, and freezer burn all have similar results on a cellular level. The affected cells are dead or massively damaged, the inflammatory response kicks in,...
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  • Thoth
    replied to On the subject of radiation
    Actually the rules regarding tattoo ink make radiation worse off. According to RAW the ink is pushed out of the skin at sunset. This suggests that all the radiation the vampire soaked up is pushed out into the room where they are sleeping, which then bounces right back onto the vampire. Its the radioactive equivalent of "pissing into the wind", in that you are expelling and getting splattered by the same thing at the same time.



    Except at the levels we are talking about, they would be re-irradiated by their surroundings, so it's kind of a moot point. I agree...
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  • Thoth
    replied to On the subject of radiation
    Radiation isn't like a wound or tattoo ink, there is nothing to heal or expel from the body. If the vampire body worked like that, they would change temperature when they rise at sunset, rather than consistently being room temperature.

    Also even if the body was able to expel radiation at sunset, their surroundings would have been soaking up radiation the entire day up until that point, which means the vampire is re-irradiated by those same surroundings when they wake up radiation free. There is a reason why radiation contamination is such a pain to clean up....
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  • Thoth
    replied to On the subject of radiation
    As far as RAW there aren't any rules for Kindred and radiation interaction.

    For my two cents on it, ionizing radiation is harmless to kindred. They are not dependent on cell functions or DNA integrity, thus they can't get radiation sickness or produce loads of tumors. With that being said there is a big problem for kindred regarding radiation, namely that they can be irradiated and thus become radioactive. This means a vampire could become an immortal walking Chernobyl if they soaked up enough radiation.

    The side affects of this level of absorption is that most kine near...
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  • I can easily see a vampire society going the whole blood cuisine route, kind of like that one episode of True Blood where they are serving blood in courses from people who been fed oranges for a month. I can see a variety of glass ware, rather than bowls or dishes being used for this. Sadly I am the sort of ST who would have the dining scene require the players navigate the differences between a lettuce wedge server and a tomato server.... but don't get me started on the ice tongs, sugar tongs, and olive tongs debates.

    There is also the fact that "blood" foods have a long...
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