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  • Neat! Thank you for that!

    I'm not a huge fan a lot of the stuff we've seen in 5th edition, but I did really like what happened with the Ministry and Hecata, primarily because there had been setup to that in the V20 books so it didn't feel like something that came out of left field. Neat to know that was all you, producing some of my favorite V20 vampire material and V5 material as well. Awesome!...
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  • Pretty sure Broken Mirrors were discussed in a section towards the back of Killing Streets, but I'm at work so I can't double check right now.

    *EDIT* Got home and checked. Yeah, the description is on page 104 of Killing Streets....
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  • Just to note that on the Ministry/Followers split, this was something that was was hinted as coming in V20 material, specifically Tome of Secrets, which spent time focusing more on the divisions of the Followers and essentially said, "in the future there's going to be a big split." It seems likely that by 2016 when Tome of Secrets was published, the authors had some idea of the direction V5 was going and already started laying the groundwork for pieces of lore, like the Ministry....
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  • Ghouls get treated like the disposable, easily replaced blood addicts that they are. At least if that's how the character I'm playing views them.
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  • You're right that you don't gain Stains every time you use it, though there is a risk of doing so every time you use it.

    It's the only Discipline that gives Stains like that, and taking Stains is something that's generally only going to apply to PCs (it's not really a mechanic that will be overly meaningful to NPCs). It seems like that particular mechanic was added in order to encourage PCs to avoid using those powers and to punish them if they rely on them too heavily. From a meta perspective, you can't really wall off Disciplines as NPC only territory but it certainly feels like...
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  • Also, you're not really intended to be using Necromancy/Obteneration to begin with, or at least not very often. That's why you gain Stains every time you use one of those Disciplines. So from the writer perspective, spending a bunch of time writing up a Discipline that PCs aren't really intended to be using is not a great place to spend wordcount.
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  • AnubisXy
    replied to W5 QA
    When people are seeing the mechanic and world changes in W5, there's quite a bit of stuff that seems very familiar to people who are familiar with Forsaken. "Oh, hey, that element wasn't in Apocalypse, but it did exist in Forsaken," isn't something people are just pulling out of their butts.

    Now, whether it's a matter of "copying" I guess that depends on the definition people are using, but it doesn't seem like much of a stretch for people to feel that some of the new elements in W5 were heavily inspired by Forsaken and for people to get a sense of deja vu when...
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  • I think it was in the V20 black hand book, with some bits in the Euthanatos MtA book. Basically there was a group of death mages (proto-Euthanatos) who discovered Enoch in the Underworld. They ended up being guardians but the city was attacked by Setites. Some of these mages ended up using True Magic to become vampires using the Setite blood as a catalyst....
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  • AnubisXy
    replied to W5 QA
    Yeah, I know I'd run into the "Final Fantasy Elixer Syndrome" where I wouldn't want to use the Resources background unless I absolutely had to, so I'd probably just end up saving it until the very last roll of the session every time....
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  • AnubisXy
    replied to You Know what I love MK I
    Oh, it's definitely going to suck for some people, that's for sure. Still, seeing the richest man on the planet flush $44 billion down the toilet while trying to blame leftists because of his own idiocy, and causing other greedy corporations to lose billions in the process, is something I can't help but smile at. Hell, if he ends up losing a controlling share of SpaceX or Tesla when he has to sell stock to pay off his loans, that would be icing on the cake.

    If Twitter was going to go down in flames, I can't think of any better way to see it go....
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  • The one disparate Bloodline in the Hecata is the Nagaraja. They were a weird Setite bloodline formed when a group of Mages in the Underworld used magic on Setite blood in order to become vampires. They had no relationship to the Cappadocians (other than possibly a business one via the Capuchin and their position in the True Black Hand) prior to the Family Reunion. Apparently whatever mystical ritual the Cappadocians engaged in during the Family Reunion, it caused the Nagaraja to cease being a Setite bloodline and instead become Hecata.
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  • AnubisXy
    replied to You Know what I love MK I
    I loved seeing Eli Lilly lose billions of dollars in stock valuation because some joker paid 8 bucks for a blue checkmark and then made a fake account using their name and said they were going to be giving away insulin for free. Eli Lilly has said they plan to pursue legal action against Elon Musk because of their losses, as that exact scenario had been predicted by Twitter in the event that they allowed unverified users to get verified accounts, but was ignored and implemented anyway.

    Eli Lilly losing billions is great. Elon Musk getting sued for billions to recoup that loss is great....
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  • AnubisXy
    replied to W5 QA
    Okay, just read that. How in the world are the Bone Gnawers a Honor Tribe and not a Wisdom Tribe?...
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  • AnubisXy
    replied to You Know what I love MK I
    The next two years will be very interesting. After basically "losing" 3 times (2018 midterms, 2020 and now in 2022) there's a lot of Republicans who are starting to realize that Donald Trump is an albatross. He's great at getting people out to vote... for the Democrats. His defeating Hillary was kind of a fluke because she was one of the only people more widely disliked than Trump was, and even then it was a close win.

    And the thing is, the Republicans actually did relatively well this year, at least the more moderate, middle of the road ones. But the crazy election deniers...
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    Last edited by AnubisXy; 11-19-2022, 02:15 AM.

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  • I always assumed that gender is a fairly new concept for them, something that they picked up only after arriving on Earth. They tend to default to "He" and "Him" when using gendered languages like English, but I always imagined that their original language on Cybertron didn't have gender concepts. Everyone was just equally robots.
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  • With Avellone, I don't think it was anything to do with his writing. His writing has always been, at worse, decent and he has a long history of taking franchises (movies, table top games, etc) and turning them into video games. I can't imagine that what he wrote was so off and bad that Hardsuit Labs felt that literally nothing was preferable.

    So I have to assume that with Avellone, the reason his writing was never incorporated into the game was due to those allegations against him. At the time the Me Too movement was in high gear and it's likely that the director felt that it would...
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  • It's possible both things are true.

    Avonelle was hired to do the side content and wrote all of it. They decided not to use his work but didn't have any other writers producing usable content so without his material they had nothing. Suddenly they had to scramble to find someone to write that stuff and, as Avellone said it took him about 2 and a half years to do all of that writing, it was going to take their new writer a comparable amount of time.

    So Avellone could be correct in that the game imploded when they decided not to use his writing and then had nothing to use....
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  • Could be. Whatever the case it sounded like the new developer was basically stuck recreating the game, if not from scratch, then pretty close to it. Finding new writers to come up with a storyline and get the dialogue and text written was definitely a major issue....
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  • Mitsoda wrote all of the main quest dialogue and the storyline. Chris Avellone had written the side quests. Between the two of them they had written something like 90% of the game. Hardsuit Labs decided to throw their work out, which basically meant starting the game over from scratch. They still had art assets and music but that was about it. They needed to hire new writers to write a new story, new side content and new dialogue. But finding new writers on the spur of the moment and getting them to write dialogue and plot a story outline for a video game takes a long, long time. Meanwhile, everyone...
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  • AnubisXy
    replied to The Fight Isn't Over
    I mostly agree. I expect most of them would end up joining the Red Talons. There might be a few who end up joining other Tribes due to some reason - maybe the lupus ended up spending a bit of time in towns before its First Change and joined the Bonegnawers. Maybe the wolf was part of a pack that was semi-familiar with humans in a positive way and joins the Children of Gaia. Or they just really like to travel so they joined the Striders. For many Tribes though, their focus is definitely more human oriented (Fianna, Black Furies, Glasswalkers, and some others) so you'll probably end up with a slightly...
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