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[AnubisXy]

Yeah, I picked it up after a friend of mine who's been playing it for a bit told me that he hasn't encountered any major bugs or serious issues. The only problem he's had is that engaging in mounted combat is a bit awkward with the game trying to draw straight lines towards enemies but it's not a deal breaker or anything....

[AnubisXy]

I hate being incredibly indecisive when it comes to making characters in RPGs.

I got the new Wrath of the Righteous game last night. Spent almost 3 hours in the character creator making different characters and considering different builds. Finally settled on one and then went, "Oh yeah, there are Mythic Paths, let me see what those do... oh, you can turn into a dragon? Awesome!" and then I realized the character I built wouldn't work so great at that. So back to spending another 3 hours in the character editor. Finally got a character done, played for awhile and then decided...

[AnubisXy]

So on the subject of the High Clan/Low Clan divide, could this divide exist in other parts of the world, but perhaps with different Clans being considered "high" and "low"? For example in India the Ravnos would probably be considered a High Clan whereas perhaps the Brujah, Tzimisce or Lasombra might be considered Low Clans.

[AnubisXy]

High Clan/Low Clan was something introduced in the Dark Ages campaign setting, a time and place when rank and class were of utmost importance. High clans typically recruited from the nobility/wealthy/important people. Low clans just kind of grabbed whomever and ended up with lots of commoners and such in their ranks. Many of these important members of nobility didn't really want to think of themselves as being on the same level as someone who had been a street urchin so they brought their mortal biases with them beyond the Masquerade.

Really the High Clan/Low Clan divide was a product...

[AnubisXy]

I tend to run the Cappadocians as frequently feeding from corpses rather than the living, often using a minor Necromantic ritual to keep the blood potent for longer. This was even more common among the Lamia who, thanks to their flaw, could easily decimate a small village over the course of a year from feeding (not to mention many of them were Bahari and killing someone was a sin on the Path of Lilith). The Cappadocians also tended not to embrace on a whim so they would almost always take the time to properly train and prepare a new childe to ensure that they were capable of surviving on their...

[AnubisXy]

Nope.

Nope....

[AnubisXy]

Like they're not canon? I don't remember anyone ever making an argument like, "Chejop is officially dead, killed by Akuma Scarlet Empress!" Exalted generally isn't a Fandom that gets too caught up in what's canon or not to begin with and I genuinely can't recall any major issues like that....

[AnubisXy]

Probably the easiest base for the show to work from would be to focus on the Realm civil war and follow a Dragon Blooded House. I think Game of Thrones showed that there is absolutely the potential for a large fanbase interested in fantasy politics, drama, warfare, etc.

If they went with a Solar focused show maybe going with a more adventure-format and looking at shows like Hercules: the Legendary Journeys or Xena: Warrior Princess as inspiration would be a great start. Have the show be a bit episodic involving the Solar character(s) traveling around and doing heroics, but also have...

[AnubisXy]

Again, I have trouble believing that everyone in the Camarilla is just going to open all of the doors and let the Lasombra defectors waltz in and make themselves at home. It doesn't make sense to me that they wouldn't keep a close eye on them for some time and generally keep them away from the levers of power until the Lasombra defectors have been able to prove that they really are defectors and that their loyalty really is to the Camarilla. And for vampires, "some time" would probably be decades or even a century....

[AnubisXy]

I've always treated the Tremere as a Tzimisci bloodline and assumed that the elder vampires they first used in their ritual were members of the Old Clan Tzimisci bloodline. The Old Clan has Auspex, Dominate and Animalism so the Tremere just swapped Animalism for Thaumaturgy. That would technically makes Tremere a bloodline of the bloodline but that sort of fits with how weird and unusual they are....

[AnubisXy]

Pretty interesting. I wonder effect, if any, this could have on White Wolf going forward.
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Does it though? I was under the impression that the entire point of the Convention of Thorns, which was really what formed the Camarilla, was that the Anarchs and the low clans would gain some measure of equality with the high clans. That the Camarilla signed for peace with them and allowed them into the Camarilla because they realized that fighting them was a losing prospect since continuing to fight would only end up pulling hunters down on everyone. This and the Masquerade were the big, important parts of the founding of the Camarilla.

If the Camarilla only existed to shit on the...

[AnubisXy]

Most vampires don't know anything. A few might realize that there are other conspiracies in the world and might even realize there's a business conspiracy (Syndicate) or one in the media (New World Order) but they'd probably have no idea those conspiracies were all separate heads of a singular hydra. Only maybe older Tremere or vampires who used to be mages or themselves Technocrats are likely to have anything approaching a full understanding of the Technocracy.

[AnubisXy]

That seems really dangerous. Any of those Lasombra could easily be a double agent. You can't know for sure that any one of them isn't still secretly a diablarist loyal to the Sabbat. Most likely they'll have to spend a few decades proving themselves before anyone is willing to stick their neck out for them.

Further the Brujah and Gangrel who remain have already proven their loyalty, having chosen to stand with the Camarilla over standing with their Clan. Treating those guys, many of whom probably have decades or centuries in the Camrilla worse than newcomer Lasombra who just rolled...

[AnubisXy]

At the very least they've lost all of the prestige and favors and allies that they've spent centuries accumulating in the Sabbat. They are also giving up their position of leadership. The ones who left and joined the Camarilla are no longer leaders of anything. They don't have a Justicar or a seat on the Inner Council yet. That's something that they might get in time, but that is time where they'll have gone from being the leaders of one of the two major Vampire sects to being at pretty much the absolute the bottom in the other sect.

That's not getting into the fact that a lot of...

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I mean you've got Lasombra who are giving up the powerbase and prestige they've spent 5 centuries in the Sabbat accumulating so that they can start over and spend the next century kissing Ventrue butt until they've amassed enough prestige in the Camarilla to try and take over. Killing a few other Lasombra on the way out is hardly much of a sacrifice compared to that....

[AnubisXy]

They're not really a sect. They're just a single Clan now, all having the same discipline spread and the same Clan weakness....

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This is what seems dumb though. It didn't work the first time and in the end the Elders were slaughtered too. That's literally why they created the Camarilla in the first place, because there was the realization that vampires either stand together in hiding their monstrous nature or they all end up dying. That's why they created the Masquerade (the most important and central concept of the gameline). The hunters won't just stop with fledglings, they didn't last time, they'll come for everyone. It feels like in cutting off so many vampires the Camarilla's elders have completely forgotten why they...

[AnubisXy]

Honestly it felt incredibly stupid to me. The Camarilla's goal has always been to enforce the Masquerade. Cutting off the Anarchs and two major clans just makes it more like that if some dumb vampires start revealing themselves to the public at large, the Camarilla won't have the resources in place to quickly do anything about it. Like it or not, a breech of the Masquerade in one place will cause problems for vampires everywhere, even those in the Camarilla.

Basically as long as the Camarilla wants to enforce the Masquerade, then it's to the Camarilla's benefit to has many members...

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Yeah somewhat. 5th edition has really changed the fundamental idea of the Camarilla. It's not longer an inclusive organization that at least claims to represent all vampires everywhere, even if the reality is rather different. Now it comes off as more of an exclusive organization where even vampires who want to join get turned away. The whole thing with the Setites being officially refused membership membership in the Camarilla has really changed how the Camarilla operates and I'm still trying to get a handle on it in the new edition....