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  • So Thallain are pretty NPC! But are they able at all to be positive, or have kind pleasant aspects for say their personal family?

    For instance I want to have a Thallain based off of Eustace Bagge, Probably a Bodach. He is mostly a grumpy doucher who loves to be a Sadist, but he will be Married to a lady named Muriel. And this will be the crux of things, because they adopted and raised a child that became a Dog Pooka, Courage. Courage protects Muriel, and I plan that he ignores most of Eustice's curmudgeonly behavior because he knows Muriel loves him. Meanwhile Eustace is mostly...
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  • Perhaps Night, Yoatzin, for Unseelie, and Day, tonalli, for Seelie. The other option maybe could be Itzli Seeming, for Obsidian representing Bloody Sacrifice for Unseelie, and Yolcan for Place of Birth for Seelie....
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  • Djinni I believe is the Singular, and Djinn is plural, I often get them confused.


    But I say Merfolk are Gallain, as they were in previous editions. They are born from eggs at the bottom of the see for goshsake! So that seems to also indicate there communities are the largest Fae Communities since they are born from breeding with themselves, or getting preggo from drunk Sailors.

    You can change houses right? Because I wonder the idea of Merfolk joining Kithain Houses, or Kithain joining the Merfolk.

    But I can't see how they are Kithain. They are...
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  • You can use Willpower along with any of the other powers. But Gnosis and Rage cannot be spent on the same turn, the exception being a level 5 Glasswalker Gift Chaos Mechanics which specifically allow them to use them both together, indicating how difficult it is to do if a Gift needs to be level five and in ones tribal Wheelhouse to do.
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  • Yeah I find books in book form much easier to find on the fly, and searching multiple things on a pdf on tablet or laptop can be less then instantaneous.
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  • Their pure breed is evoking qualities of Wendigo himself, rather then a wolf's. Simple.
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  • Okay I can see most of those just being rarer Kithain, but the Merfolk seem like definite Gallain. They weren't part of the same changeling way ritual and are born in eggs in the see and Worship Vatea. They seem even more alien to the Kithain then the Nunnehi, and they have their own noble houses rather then the Kithain noble houses....
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  • It feels now that the Thallain are the most diverse group, they have lesser numbers then the Kithain but at the same time their is a Thallain for each Kithain and many Gallain as well as just unique Thallain.


    So I feel like Beasties should use something like the idea for Dragonkin making a form using a chimera point system. Since the true forms aren't simple animals, but hellish beasts. Or since they seem inspired by the Delirium of Shapeshifters their true forms should use a customizable attribute booster like when shapeshifters transform.
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  • Why would a Garou get extra Gnosis for being related to Fae?...
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Best Blood Magic Tradition
    There was a downside of Akhu, you needed to dedicate a shrine to defiling ritually mummified corpses, it can be crippling when it's not super helpful.


    But yeah I am a sucker for Akhu, I love Setites, Sadhana probably my second fave since so many learn it.

    Though I really love the kraina form of Koldunism so that is probably the real close second.
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  • Color me interested, as I am in the same boat as you. It was kosher to have Kinain Garou in the old days. But I haven't read my c20 yet and I want to reveal my Wild West pack are all Kinain.


    Maybe if you aren't introduced to Fae society your glamour doesn't awaken and mess with things like your gnosis?
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Marawa, Nareau, and Rati
    I'm going to guess they are each a Wyrmish being with a sub attachment to another member of the triat. Like maybe Rati is Wyrm/Wyrm from the Rathi warriors in Vedic lore?
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  • Did I just dream it up or get it from canon that Satyr Thallain were more like baphomet or cloven hooded horned devils? I also could see minotaurs as appropriate Thallain. Nasties seem odd, just dirty creepy satyrs?
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  • Spriggan with Contract arts and a Treasure Pipe? If contract is violated, which he now half encourages he uses Sovereign or chicanery or something to summon the children.
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Samurai Jack
    That's a good point. Then again it also was mainly due to time travel.



    Do you think Odin/Vishnu/Ra remember what happened regardless of time travel? I like to think they do due to being on a higher plain....
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  • I would imagine it is more likely that it would be a Bone Gnawer Kin that was the Billionaire. Its discouraged because Rat doesn't place value in property itself but in using property to support your brood. Most Garou don't have a legacy of being the ones who are personally rich, its usually Garou are the Patriarch/Matriarchs of Families and Extended Family like Kinfolk who cultivate fortunes. Glasswalkers are the Exceptions as they place value in Pursuits that lead to riches. Silver Fangs aren't even necessarily rich, they are old money but they could have no money, but when they need money...
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Samurai Jack
    Yeah I'm going with her being a Green Sun Prince.
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  • I think a lot of people forget that many vampires don't hold most of their own money. "Their" money often is actually several people "whom they own"'s money. Some vampires exist using faked identities, but some Vampires don't exist on the books at all, and spend money through a handful of wealthy Thralls who exist to be wealthy for them, and to spread the origins of their wealth around so its harder for the Vampires rivals to narrow down the Cainite's movements.
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  • That's racist!...
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  • Those six I believe are Gallain in c20.

    I was thinking of thallian I will make for my game, Wendigo, Hanya(as thallain for an Oni Gallain sub kiths of the trolls.), disir a thallain to the Norns/Swan Maidens/Valkyrie. Wyrms as a thallain for whatever I use for dragons.

    And a few others I am considering if I will make them Thallain to just unseelie favoring kiths. Berghasts, which may get Kerberoi, though it may be reverse with them where the Thallain line is the Main Line and Kerberoi are a minority offshoot. And Imps. But I may make imps just unseelie and maybe make...
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