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[Eldagusto]

I interesting ideas.

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I don’t think ancient first generation Lasombra is the same as “Modern” (as in the last two thousand years) Lasombra. In fact for all we know Lasombra itself could have used the Laibon system and Montano was an experiment in divergence by making an Honorable Accord style morality for Montano. And we know Montano isn’t his original name, and I’d wager it’s his modern name, as in the name he uses for the last one or two millennia. He was probably something like Montaneus before Mantano.

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Tremere Unified was a contender for taking over the Cam and even toppling the Ventrue in like the next century. Fractures, they are just another group.

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Oh yeah Aeon Flux! Haha yeah I hate having to compromise something due to corporate trademarked naming. Like when they called it the Mothman even though people were describing it as a bat but they didn’t want to get hassled by the Adam West show at the time....

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So what if in Modern Nights another Mage Tradition or Craft or Convention or Hell even a group of Mauraders or Nephandi signed up to be like the next Tremere?

So what I mean is like a subgroup makes a conspiracy to become Vampires, either by Self embracing like Nagarajah or Tremere or being embraced by a potent Vampire like the Giovanni.

What are some ideas? And which group do you think would be the most interesting?

I can just imagine some Etherite enclave self embracing after say they darted and contained Lasombra when exploring the Abyss or Hell they...

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What’s this now? Green Cherry Demonomicon?...

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That is one way people refer to metaplot, but a lot of people, especially fans, also consider the over arching plot, or narrative of a game line/universe as metaplot. So for instance Adventure transitioning into Abberant transitioning into Aeon is considered this type of Metaplot.

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Maybe a Zippo Lighter that lets you peer into people’s dreams and the near Dreaming when smoking.

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Yup treasures enchant on touch, that way they can affect people without worrying about if your sword is hitting an enchanted mortal or not.

And the Near Dreaming is complicated thing, it’s not like the Penumbra where it is a direct reflection of Earth. In fact if you had a constant view of the Dreaming it would likely shape the Dreaming.

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I agree I like they don’t get cluttered Explaining Creation. Most starting PCs in my opinion shouldn’t know much about the world beyond their nation.

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He was embraced upon the Continent and Raised there, in the Laibon rules theirs is the natural morality you develop on the Veldt and the Plains. Though it sounds like he may be older then the known Laibon History, and he very clearly seems to be high Path of Honorable Accord/Whatever Road it evolved in from the Road of Kings.

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I keep Revised Path of Paradox/Mayaparisattya

Because the whole point of it was they understood vampirism brought them out of balance with the Universe and they sought Harmony much like the ideals of the Path of Blood. I hated how V20 didn’t get that and made it just another Jerkass vampires are okay Path.

I’m interested in nonTzimisce on the Path of Metamorphosis, like I can see Nosferatu and Gangrel on that path, or Transhumanist Malkavians.

I’m interested in making the Laibon morality compatible with the rest of the game, like I’m still fine with...

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gosh that’s actually top on my list for most desired eras!

I think I heard it was not set to come out anytime soon though. But it could support all era level characters and any type of world!...

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That would open up a whole avenue of blood technology and alchemy! Maaaadnesss!

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The Sabbat always danced on the bloody edge of Hypocrisy. Their infernal inquisition is always looking into it but they also have Dur-an-ki ashipu who also deal with spirits in a similar fashion, and Wangateurs who appease and barter with spirits, and the Abyssal Lasombra who meddle with dark forces, and Necromancers, and true Dark Thaumaturgy wielding infernalists. But they are usually satisfied as long as they can tell you aren’t a full blown slave to spirits. If it looks like you are just exchanging ritual or services for power they may balk at it but they will look the other way because...

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Fortitude for Dragon Scales, Reptile themed Protean or Serpentis, and Potence!

I’ve made a dragon bloodline but it was more along the lines of the Blue Dragon of the North Qinglong so different flavor.

But good onya mate I like the flavor of this. At first I was thinking of the story of Sutekh Diablerizing Apep and gaining Serpentis from the ordeal.

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I remember talk of this, maybe in the Changing Breed 20 Book. I think the idea is they will go extinct without them not they all lose their spirit after the last one dies, and more it’s really bad for them to rely off of only homids and they need to find a replacement animal kin to help keep balance.

Remember the Bubasti are without feline kin right now, but secretly the last khepher cats are bloated Ghouls of the Followers of Set, but eww who wants to breed with that!

In fact now I want to make a Sorcerer Scientist who wants to research a suitable replacement for...

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Hohoho yeah it’s been so long since everyone was in on the alliteration that I chuckle seeing someone just discover it....

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Is this a ritual or literal something any Vampire can do?...

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From a thread concerning a 1st Circle Demon

“This makes me wonder how flexible and specific summoning demons can be? Like can you narrow down summoning a Narodri with a specific type of memory or even a specific memory?”

So yeah how specific and precise does demon summoning get? One idea I used before was demon summon gets you a rando member of the brood but Sorcerers often store secret indexs of Demons they Named after summoning with cultivated attributes or natures.