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[Eldagusto]

Wait which comic had the Joker shoot the Waynes?...

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So I'm thinking the Humans of the Dark Souls setting would subtly be inverted Creation Humans, they will have their Po soul be their primary soul and their Hun soul as their more transitory soul. And the Undead I'm thinking will have liquid humanity in their blood.

And I haven't played Bloodborne yet but I'm digging the lore and I'm thinking maybe they will be an offshoot world were they will have essentially no Hun soul and only a Po Soul perhaps as a method to evade the Curses of Demon and Dark Souls settings. I'm thinking the Great Ones would be 3rd Circle Souls and uplifting...

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I can see him not being an Archmages, just a master who is older then mortals. But I don’t see him being a Sorcerer. He is clearly of the Taftani Tradition and Decked out in Wonders. What he took out methuselahs only because he had a bunch of cool loot and what hidden genies?...

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Yeah honestly I think he was depressed at becoming a Vampire. Before that he was a Mage with a limitless future, he even whooped Haquims favored childer who was an elder of Ur-Shulgi and a few others, because they thought it was a good idea to jump an archmagus who wielded a bow that shot sunlight... It was definitely an attempt to muzzle him....

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And if Antediluvians are an option... Sutekh!

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Oh damn I forgot about Montano!...

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Baba Yaga is so damn classy and adds a sense of romanticism and myth I can't help but love her!

Shoot me but I also love El Diablo Verde, I have a place for him even if some don't.

And Al-Ashrad is so damn sensible and competent, he was destined for great things and making him the childe of Ur-Shulgi chained him, he may have overshadowed him if he was a direct childe of Haquim.

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Yeah and it was before they needed Dharmas to tie to their Powertrait so it was probably a less constraining power trait limiting them....

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They are vague, the Wan Gui seem to have degenerate versions of their Disciplines.

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I feel that saying Exaltations were one of the biggest mistakes of them all, is needlessly trying to subvert expectations, they are what they are. The Primordial War brought peace to humanity but they committed Genocide unseen in Creation even with the Great Contagion Balorian Crusade.

I didn't say you destroy Exaltations with Sorcery.

I did say maybe use Sorcerous Workings to tamper with them, or even artifacts as that is what Monstrances are.

And I do feel it would be poignant if a handful of immortal Exaltations were lost in the War.

And...

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Wow methinks I touched a nerve.
Cept you are not putting it in a book you are doing it in one game.

By your reasoning we shouldn't have Abyssals or Infernals? Especially since it took over 5k years to achieve them so they shouldn't exist?

And binding Exaltations could be curses or whims of the Exalted themselves. And if say you bound one into a Sun you could still in theory pluck it out.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean it would be easy, even if you could destroy Exaltations I don't think the Sidereals would have the resources to do...

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From my understanding Auto was bullied more for his weak health, the Archetypical Forge God Limp as well as him having some natural form of degrading Cancer even though he is an eternal being, rather than being a nerd or socially awkward. I imagine Ebon Dragon would have been bullied more if he wasn't clever enough to aim it at Auto, because ED is frailer then most Primordials being a shadow of a true dragon rather then say an Unstoppable Boar Juggernaut Singularity.

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Those are three good examples, I probably missed pointing out to 3D methods when I read it.

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Yeah Camarilla is rather pragmatic and smart in that they concentrated on survival and hopefully keeping a certain standard of Unliving, that is part of why I have issues with them pandering by simplifying the Camarilla into a more bad guy kill whitey/stick it to the Man role in 5th ed. The four previous editions' Camarillas would have thought 5th ed's Camarilla for fools for trying to kick folks out of the Club.

And the Techies want to Genocide all Reality Deviants, but they also want to steer the future of humanity into a Star Treck Gene Roddenberry Future. The Camarilla doesn't...

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You can't be Autistic if you are not human, it is a human diagnosis, people have often asked vets for instance if their cats are autistic and well we don't have a definition for that outside of humanity.

But Autochthon actually Lobotimized himself by converting his Fetiche soul (his Brain) into an artificial brain to specifically help him interact on a human level. This would imply to me that his grasp of human social conventions and ways of thinking are probably better than most Primordials.

And I believe it was Adorjan who was compared to autism, but she is a Murder...

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The Union hasn't really moved away from it though, they still have it the Union tries to steer trends and the economy, they just can't outright control things, but they try. The Camarilla though know its futile to try to completely control the world, for one Kindred naturally spoil each others plans just by existing and other supernaturals exist. I view the Union tries to concentrate on large scale control and the Camarilla specializes of localized influence. Their goals can be syncretic.

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I don't think the Union could keep the 2nd Inquisition ignorant on other supernaturals, at best they could mess with their knowledge of them and keep them focused on Draculer Hunting.

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Yeah this is literally why I can't take the Justice League Seriously. If Flash can have Pico and Femto second reactions and master architecture by reading a section of a library in time and repairing a building how are any of Lex Luthor's plans an issue or Grog's. He has literally single-handedly evacuated cities quicker then explosions. I just can't take Justice League seriously with all their world breaking powersets....

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It feels sad to ignore all the mystical artifacts, as well as newly researched rites and Paths that would be available in Vienna. Honestly I feel since they are the Premier Blood Sorcery Researchers they would have Wonders from their days as Mages, Grimoires, some Fetishes and even some Tremere who mastered Necromancy or Other Blood Magics past five.

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By my reckoning Temporis doesn't master time, but at the powers of 8-10 you start to be able to cheat time. But what if you combo Temporis with other Disciplines, I can see Ilyes combining Temporalis with ancient Blood Sorcery to help fill in the gaps. After all we have that Sadhana Rite that actually is Time Travel, but it exists in an apocryphal state so you can ignore it if you want but its cool. I can see Ilyes using Blood Sorcery to say steer Temporalis, like Temporalis provides the Warp Engine for the Enterprise and Sorcery provides say the Bridge that Ilyes/Jean Luc Picard can use to...