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  • Sacrifice is to be expected though, of all Garou but especially elders. 6th rank go above and beyond and you need to have no doubts about them being 6th rank, which is why I don't think Albrecht should be 6th rank.

    They also have access to hella potent 6th rank gifts which can turn the tides of war.

    I houserule they can alsor raise traits to 6.
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  • Maybe I'll do it that way. The w20 Wild West book is pretty clear you needed to be rank six to be sacrificed though. Though Garou natures seems to generate heroes when needed like the apocalypse generation, but this seems like it should most definitely have more of an impact on Garou history... it's more severe then the Russian and Amazon Wars!
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  • Wait 13 6th rank Garou were Sacrificed to stop the Stormeater?!

    That seems really excessive since the books mention each tribe might not even have a 6th rank at any given time. I'm not really convinced 13 would be gathered to kill themselves. I know the Stormeater was approaching Celestine status!

    13 6th rank together means a world wide Garou Unity, and this isn't reflected in the setting. 13 6th ranks can do impossible things, and they never got together to do things like save the silent striders or stargazers but they saved Amaerica?!
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  • The books mention vampires can afford to do safe stable boring investments like just putting it in the bank, bonds and real estate. Combine that with cheating powers and easy money.
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to The Inner Council
    So who gets Australia?
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to The Inner Council
    I meant the Tremere one, we've been over this I get confused;P.

    But the Inner Circle aren't chosen by the clans they do the choosing.



    Early someone said Hardstadt is being manipulated. Was Hardstadt the Elder manipulated because I'm thinking he really probly would only be tricked, rather then being sock puppet slaves seeing as he was 4th gen.
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Gehenna Cycle
    We don't have any 10s of thousands of year old Draculers, unless maybe Lilith and Caine. All the Antes would be around 14k....
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Gehenna Cycle
    Well I didn't mean the universe cycles that often, even the kindred of the East thing was a 12 spoked cycle. Just the Antes and the descendants get there genocide on every now and then, and there are less Antes with each cycle. Imagine a 13th gen from 4K years ago that was in torpor from the last cycle.

    In my headcanon really only Ravnos is dead out of the 13. Lasombra and Cappy survived/arranged their diableries, and are both Onceborn now. Maybe the original Brujah was diablerized by Triole, or he is stuck in time and Triole became 3rd gen from eating a 2nd. Veddartha never...
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to The Inner Council
    The Tremere book says they have the 7 inner circle members but they specifically didn't mention them? Besides Etrius who makes up the inner Council? How many are still 4th gen/original members? And how did they used to divide territory when the Americas/Asia/Australia/most of Africa were not available to them till much much later in history?
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Breaking curses
    Ur-Shulgi did it with Assamite Sorcery, which is Dur-an-ki....
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  • If humans can amass that much wealth in one lifetime then why wouldn't some vampires be able to being immortal, with super brainwashing, mind control, invisibility, and enslavement blood?
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  • The impression I get is if Turtle awakens then the bindings against the eater of Souls unseals. So I don't think turtle would do this willingly. But if it happens then we could get a host of Croatan spirits and I'll wager several Uktena and Wendigo would hel by changing tribes to help get the new middle brother off the ground.
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  • Also when becoming a vampire I'm going to convert the other supernatural powers into disciplines.
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Alamut
    So what confuses me is in the WOD some of the historical places were never discovered like the ruins of Petra. So instead of Alamut being the Hashasheen fortress Vampires own it, because there are no mention of two Alamuts. A lot could have been made simpler if they choose to actually make the Hashasheen connected to the Children of Haqim rather then no connection.
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to Gehenna Cycle
    Hmm so let's say Enoch is 14k years ago, would you put the 2nd city as 10-9k years ago?

    How long would you imagine Caine wandering? Do you imagine it's during the War with Heaven in Demon?

    I like to think either Enoch or the 2nd city were created as a result of the Shifter impergium ending. Also I like to think the 2nd City was Irem of the Pillars.
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  • I'm not worried about power level Mages have mortal bodies and have only theoretical advantages in some areas, but being caught by surprise they are at a disadvantage. And not everyone will be fighters, so no real issue as they have different levels even with their own splats.
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  • Eldagusto
    replied to The Inner Council
    Well if I'm ignoring the V20 saying only one of each clan, and likely the oldest. I don't see why it can't be just a hodge podge collection, like Ventrue and Toreador have multiple members and there being some rare bloodlines, like maybe even a secret Cappy. The Tremere sending either one of the council of 7 or a puppet childe herald.
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  • Idea for a crazy Vampire Chronicle, Magicians into Blood Magicians

    Okay so I have a plan for a game I am going to do with my next game, in between my Exalted game. So the idea starting in the last Viking age, so Wolves of the Sea,everyone will either be an occultist training in sorcery or they will be. Natural Psychics. Eventually some will awaken into Mages. Then someone will be embraced. Maybe I'll have people choose who embraces them as players but it's a mystery to characters.
    Maybe some characters choose to even avoid the embrace and then play it till the modern day, Gehenna and the space age. If someone dies they play wraiths. Maybe even use...
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  • Eldagusto
    started a topic The Inner Council

    The Inner Council

    Sooo I am surprised, v20 says only one member of the inner council for each clan and usually the oldest. I thought there were no rules besides secret power, like many thought that toreador that thought up the idea was definitely in but he isn't even a methuselah.


    I personally believe there are members beyond the 7 clans, with Montano being by far the oldest and most powerful and a Lasombra.
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  • Using D20 instead of v20 rules for modern nights?

    So I didn't get read my copies yet but it seems dark ages 20 may be smoother and more revised gen the more copy pasty v20. So who advocates using its crunch for masquerade games and who opposes?

    Also I don't really see how paths are different the. Roads besides they were made with the aura system. Weren't paths originally subroads?
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