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[Eldagusto]

Are we going to get rules on the different godblooded all in one go, and then just update it when each new type of godblooded comes along with their Exalt's core book? Like say we get a book that explains Godblooded, elementalblooded, and Demonblooded, and so they also explain Golden Children and Moontouched? Or do you think we will start piecing it together more bit by bit, giving us rules for Moontouched, then later Golden Children, and then Godblooded ect?

The ability to use Artifacts, because they are great and a good way to represent say a line of Kings descended from Solars...

[Eldagusto]

I'm really digging this now. This means all the Nobles who aren't Sidhe are essentially Gallain and thus outside of the Sidhe Control, like the Menehune's caste system and the Merfolk, or are hidden, like the Oba.

[Eldagusto]

It makes a lot of sense and goes with the Troll Kings of Old stories already part of canon. And it explains how we can have a God Pan Ruler of Arcadia but no Satyr House. It also explains Sidhe houses, if they overthrew the other Kithain and erased their houses then that explains why their culture is dominant.

[Eldagusto]

Mannikins! I’m guessing Mannikins!!!

[Eldagusto]

Hmm after reading C20 all the way and reading the Inanimae Secret Ways halfwaythrough I am thinking maybe the first Gargoyles existed after the Sundering but before the Shattering. Maybe the strife of the making war caused some of the Inanimae Krofted, Particularly Mannikins, choose to not be involved in the war. Maybe they use the primordial version of the Changeling Way Ritual/Husk Riding to create Eggs to be reborn in. They were few in Number and spread around the world at different times. But after the crushing of the Empire of Flame and the Shattering and the closing of the Trods a contingent...

[Eldagusto]

We need more discussion in books about what Slivers mean. They talk about it being part of the greater power of the Fae of Old, but not every Fae was omnipotent. It sounds more like a sliver of Godhood or Omnipotence, rather then a Sliver of each Fae.

Also what about Slivers for Brand New Phyla, like maybe a Datum Sliver for Computer/AI phyla? It wouldn't be a sliver of the old power of the fae would it?

I would like maybe a sliver for each of the Elements representing the subtle and abstract qualities that shadow an Element. Like

SLIVER IDEAS:
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[Eldagusto]

Official records maybe, but what if he investigates inhuman accounts? Or conspiracy theorists, or plain old intense investigation over the history and figuring out something was indeed covered up. But what city are you at that has prehistoric sewers? Do you have plans to have things like ancient ruins or secret temples under the Sewers?

[Eldagusto]

That's interesting I still need to read the Beast Core.


Baba Yaga did not die like she did in Canon. Vasilissa did indeed track her down, duping a foolish coterie of foreign Neonates. But Baba Yaga coded her domain with layers of rituals and Wards, and Vasilissa is so old and potent, a creature of nightmare and myth she too was more vulnerable to certain wards then the weaker generation. Vasilissa triggered numerous traps which gave Baba Yaga the edge she needed to slay Vasilissa in their battle. Vasilissa struggled against the wards and curses fought Baba Yaga, and entered...

[Eldagusto]

I believe there was the idea of Wendigo Pure Breed making one more closely resemble their totem, so white hair and what not. But besides that yeah I have them separate so I can have things like a fiery redhead who likes to burn things and turns out her dad wasn't the milkman but a Fire Elemental her garou mom banged.

[Eldagusto]

I was thinking about that too. Before thinking of an Osseus sliver I was thinking they would work like Mannikins with their powers. I mean if you were anchored to human bones you would have a connection the other gladlings didn’t have to meat and humans in particular.

[Eldagusto]

And right now even if we had cantrips for Slivers there are only five of them. We don't have really very many ways of portraying Powerful inanimae, especially if all elders have the same powers. So what ways can we expand their potential powerset?

They could get access to something like an arch Sliver power that goes past 5.

They could introduce slivers based on different Elements, like my proposed Sliver of Bone.

They could create slivers based on combinations of elements, such as Pyros and Petros making something like Volcanus. This has potential, and...

[Eldagusto]

I've done a three hour introduction explanation, whittled it down to less than two hours over the years. It includes things like how the basic stats works, rolls ect. But with my last game I went with a more minimalistic approach. I gave them a brief overview of the attributes and skills, and then I only told them the bare minimum of the setting they would know as mortal scrubs. In this case it was somewhat abstracted as they were in a weird corner of Creation that didn't work like the normal one. It worked out well as this allowed the Players to discover the setting along with their characters....

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Also it seems Perosemes aren't usually Krofted but new ones are born Krofted. Otherwise how do you explain an Anchor being turned into a Wind Chime? They are often Clouds or mountaintops or even more perplexing things like Trade winds. Similar concern with the Solimonds, as they mention Lighting is an option... At least with them they can be balefire. But they also mention things like Firepits would be Gladelings, which is weird I would imagine they would be Krofted, but they mention things like Ovens and advanced tech being the first Solimond Krofted. Though I would imagine Lamps being...

[Eldagusto]

Phyla Homunculi of the Empire of Bones.

I'm contemplating their birthrights and thinking maybe some sort of interact with the dead birthright, and I'm not sure for the other one. Maybe give them the ability to learn Slivers and Arts like Mannikins, but I could instead make an Osseus Sliver that touches on some Necromancer Shaman themes?

We need a book that covers and revises the Inanimae because it would be nice to see how the Phlya within the same Empire interact, like if we had Glomes interact with a metal phylum of Jing. In fact shouldn't we have something like a...

[Eldagusto]

I didn’t say they were otherwise I wouldn’t have said glomes. But there are supposed to be a lot of different phyla then the ones in the book. Like I may have Rusalka and yuki-onna as their own phlya or mash them into others....

[Eldagusto]

Technically Glomes count metal as one of their possible anchors.

[Eldagusto]

Its not minimalist in a good way. You can tell they were obviously given a summerized powerset due to wordcount.

I'm reading the Inanimae book now, and I am wondering its 1st ed so is it going to be easier to translate these powers, even though some are redundant to Fae Cantrips, into C20 level? It might be more satisfactory for me to just go with the linked Inanimae Realm patch instead.

And Inanimae are supposed to be really subtle, and that isn't really what only being able to unleash is for. Perhaps if we ported the rules of Coaxing being a subtle type of Unleashing...

[Eldagusto]

Interesting. I remember before the Feast of Folly the Clan of Death was supposed to be particularly fertile and numerous, but then they pogromed everyone and they became a small clan closer in size to the Salubri. It would be interesting if they return to horde size....

[Eldagusto]

Sabbat make the most sense as Antagonists to me, so I can clearly see them as Antagonists. As PCs... that takes work, either a specifically evil game or maybe the PCs are Philosophers or trying to find themselves or even fight the evils within the Sect.

[Eldagusto]

Maybe they could have instead emphasized that not all the Gangrel left, and had it over time the ones that stayed grew, while the ones that became independent often still stood in Camarilla and Anarch territory so they kind of were lumped into the Camarilla by default.


I wish we just kept the Week of Nightmares, the Assamite Schism, and the Gangrel exodus... The inconsistency on whether the Week of Nightmares happened had a ripple effect across all the 20th lines....