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  • Ramnesis
    replied to Achieving the Impossible?
    I think the last two questions I listed have the most to do with this. How do the characters protect themselves during the whole process? Why has no one even come close to accomplishing this before? Answering these two questions in a believable and interesting way is the key to a good story.

    To use Healing a Marauder as an example: no one knows the actual process of becoming a Marauder unless they are on the verge of becoming one themselves. If they refuse the change and step back from the edge, they forget the secret. That's a hell of a barrier to overcome. Either they have...
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  • Ramnesis
    replied to Achieving the Impossible?
    You don't have to have it be impossible, it could just be next to impossible.

    The way I see it there are certain things that have to be answered in these kinds of challenges.

    1) How do you do it?
    2) How do you get what you need to do it?
    3) How do you learn how to do it?
    4) How do you protect yourself during the whole process?
    5) Why has no one ever come close to succeeding before?

    My attitude is that unless this impossible task is the entire point of the Campaign, I'm under no obligation to figure out the answers to any of that....
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  • Ramnesis
    replied to Summoning an Incarna
    Unless the Incarna in question doesn't respect ass-kissing.

    That's the thing about Spirits, they can have very alien attitudes on courtesy and decorum. Many appreciate fawning adulation, many others do not. An Incarna might well take the attitude:"You damn well better treat me as an equal because if you thought you were unworthy and you tried to see me anyways things are going to go very badly for you." Or "You're not worth my time if you aren't a threat to me." Or any of a hundred other stances that demand the mages be audacious, tenacious, or otherwise ...
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  • You are right, AI seems too banal. Perhaps the goal was a construct with the capacity for Enlightened Science. It's a much harder goal and one the Etherites might even have the advantage on. R&D for it could plausibly involve experiments on extradimensional entities.

    I could see the Iterators seeing a promising DE experiment, stealing it, running it through their iterative programming and unveiling it only for it to be shot down. Then when they tried to pin the blame on the DEs it would turn out the original experiment was actually about creating an artificial extradimensional...
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  • I ran into similar problems. It doesn't seem like the Iterators should have changed their name until after the VAs left, but they did. I suppose it could have happened while the ARs were in their infancy, but then why didn't the Computer go with them. It's odd.

    I think the moment of their name change is the best moment for their fall and the Etherites rise. They put a lot of energy into defining themselves and it ended up backfiring in a major way. If that's the case their humiliation must have something to do with the Computer, computers, or AI in general. Also, in normal Technocracy...
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  • Ramnesis
    replied to batini and iran..
    That's my general problem with the Batini too. I like them as a faction, but they are too often described as more special or 'in the know' than anyone else.
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  • I figure any exile or rebellion should have a reason or event associated with it. The Etherites and the VAs left over differences in vision but there were also triggering events like the disproving of the luminiferous ether and the persecution of Turing.

    If I had to choose such a scenario for ItX, it would be the revelation of The Computer as a spirit. The embarrassment from that would destroy their influence in the Technocracy for generations and could be the foundation of all sorts of bad blood. It could also kick off a few new lines of scientific inquiry the Ex-Iterators could...
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  • Assuming a greater focus on individual scientists and scientific pursuit and a greater focus on utopian ideals and authoritarianism, this is what I see happening to the other Conventions.

    Iteration X is greatly changed. There was always a lot of overlap between them, the Electrodyne Engineers, and the Difference Engineers. That was fine when the other two were minor Conventions, but with the Etherites in ascendancy they don't have much of a place. They are still one half of the Military Industrial Complex, but with less ability to predict the next revolutionary leap that Complex is...
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