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  • You got to make it happen. You must come full circle. The fan who made awesome fan videos about the clans shall now make official videos about the clans. ...
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  • I know exactly what you meant and my retort still stands. Elder vampires can manipulate younger vampires without those affected ever knowing they are being manipulated or that their puppet masters even exists....
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  • Wissenschaft
    replied to That Worm in Vienna
    So it seems likely that Tremere never ate Saolut, but rather just his beast which Saolut long ago discarded.



    Some people seem iffy about this but I agree that it just makes so much of their history make sense. Theres just way too much drama otherwise....
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  • And yet thats how many very old vampires operate. From the shadows with almost no one knowing they even exist. Your puppets have all the contacts, resources, allies, etc that you need....
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  • Wissenschaft
    replied to These new Lasombras
    No, the Camerilla is not full on elitist, those not useful to the Cam are not welcome. Anyone not in the Cam is considered an Anarch, regardless of if they self identify as one....
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  • Wissenschaft
    replied to These new Lasombras
    Very useful actually. The Tremere could use purifying blood to keep the vampires of a Prince's domain from carrying the disease and therefore inadvertently spreading it among their own herd. This was one of the ways through which the Tremere gain acceptance in vampire society in the dark ages....
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  • The short write up on House Ipsissimus seems to imply its set up like a proper house as in they have the house so Anarch Tremere can safely communicate and coordinate with each other. That said, its all vague enough that you could just use it like a Title and I can totally see Tremere double agents within the anarch. I mean......its the Tremere. lol

    Also, while house Carna is formally Camarilla, they still have dealings with the anarch movement. So, for example, house Carna could be selling their services to the LA barons. They are also very anti-blood bond thanks to Carna herself...
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  • Well, as I said after I finished editing my text, they have a proper Anarch Tremere house so if thats what you want then its what you got. Its just not House Carna. It does seem to be vaguely hinted that house Gortraix is in the Sabbat which means the Tremere have a house in every sect....
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  • Thats kind of before V5 clarifies in the rulebook that they are still part of the Camerilla. The anarch book provides the name of a proper anarch Tremere house ( Ipsissimus) but they are pretty underground given the level of fear they have of being hunted by the main house. They also don't like house Carna for while those witches claim to have Anarch sympathies they still operate within the Camarilla.

    Note: House Ipsissimus isn't Anarch because they are rebelling against their elders. Rather they just think the Cam holds them back from their spiritual ascension....
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  • Well, right now clever mr. Tremere has everyone thinking hes MIA. Maybe even dead after the SI attack. The best way to hide is to make everyone think your already dead. In this way he can influence and lead the clan in secret without being targeted by any enemies since hes "already dead". Very clever.
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  • Wissenschaft
    replied to These new Lasombras
    Sadly, in real life most tyrants do no succumb to mob justice. The vast majority of rebellions in history are failures. The American Revolution, the Indian independence movement, and Russian revolution, and Chinese revoltuion are all famous modern exceptions to rule but they were all exceptions. Tyrants can rule for a long time and have dynasties that strangle their nations for generations. Successful revolutions almost always come from the upper middle class or wealthy, not the poor.



    Ironically, the Sabbat are being used as canon fodder in the Gehenna crusade so not...
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  • I don't know what to say besides what you dislike about V5 others like. So its an issue where no matter what they do some fans are going to be unhappy. It would be one thing if everyone hated the V5 rule changes but thats just not the case. I can perfectly understand people who loved the Sabbat being upset by the sect mostly missing in V5. We don't know when they will get around to adding more info about the Sabbat. If thats unacceptable for you then so be it.

    Personally, I prefer the Camarilla vs Anarch focus of V5 more than the old Camarilla vs Sabbat struggle. But thats a personal...
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  • This sounds like a very fun concept for a chronicle. I'll be interested in seeing how it turns out.
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  • Wissenschaft
    replied to These new Lasombras
    And I've pointed out before in this thread that theres a loresheet called "follower of Vasantasena" that has a 5 dot merit called "Sabbat becomes Camarilla". It allows vampires to break free from the alien philosophies of the Sabbat and rediscover their humanity. That is your answer to how elder Lasombra could defect to the Cam transition to the path of humanity....
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  • Wissenschaft
    replied to These new Lasombras
    Well, thats the same plan as some in the Sabbat. No different than what many Lasombra were already doing. Shurg, vampires are scum. lol

    Oh you mean worshiping the Antediluvians, rather than just throwing the young into battle. Right, well theres ancestor worship but usually of Methuselahs that aren't planning on devouring their clan. That and the beckoning that has forced many elders likely into the waiting arms of the Antediluvians means that throwing your young at the ancients is not an option. They are taking the elders first.

    While there are likely crazy Antediluvian...
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    Last edited by Wissenschaft; 12-18-2018, 12:04 AM.

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  • Wissenschaft
    replied to These new Lasombras
    Well, partly. As I said, theres a loresheet that provides a way to break free from sabbat ideology. I imagine a Lasombra Elder would have about as much humanity as any other Cam Elder. Just enough to not appear as a monster ready to devour the nearest neonate. The Path of Humanity is less for the Elders and more for the Neonates. You sire young vampires that are closer to their humanity and use them to influence the Kine. Which is what most Cam elders already do. Also, putting in effort to mimic humanity, even if you don't have much yourself, is still helpful to maintain your own personal masquerade....
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  • It doesn't really strongly suggest it was the Assamites so much as thats a guess of one of their visors. Honestly, it could easily be Tremere himself who had the prime chantry targeted. Eliminate the leadership that may have fallen under sway of Salout and also break the mystical clan bond to prevent Salout from influence anymore of the Clan.

    As for Gargoyles, they can be pretty mercenary and so some are even willing to work for clan Tremere and the Cam as long as they are payed....
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  • Wissenschaft
    replied to These new Lasombras
    @Nyrufa Well, half the Lasombra are staying in the Sabbat so I imagine they feel exactly as you do about the traitors.

    I will note though that the Lasombra haven't abandoned their war on the Antedeluvians. Now that the Camarilla recognizes the the threat of the ancients, the elder Lasombra have just made the cold hearted calculation that the Cam is a more useful tool than the current collapsing Sabbat in their war against the Antedeluvians. The threat of the Inquisition reinforces the need for stronger mortal influence in the clan and that is facilitated by the path of humanity. It
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  • Actually, House Carna is still Camarilla. They may deal with the Anarchs but they haven't changed sects. Main reason seems to be that Carna is terrified of Tremere punishing her for breaking free from the main clan and its blood bonds. No one seems to know that Tremere is in Goratrix's body. As for the extent of House Carna, the inquisition notes reveal that the house operates as smaller cells that have spread far and wide. So House Carna could well be global now.

    How strong are the Tremere? Thats a question we honestly don't know. They no longer have the political clout to oppose...
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  • Requiem allowed for Touchstones to be a bit more flexible. An elder might have a gravesite from his human past as a touchstone or even younger vampires. The key factor is that a touchstone helps remind a vampire of their humanity. Without some moral compass, some remnant of consistence, there is only the beast....
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