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  • Astromancer
    replied to Missing Gods
    Actually it's pre-Classical. It is contemporary with Homer because it's referenced in poetry from that time period....
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  • Astromancer
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    In actual Greek myth a shepherd fishing for his dinner put fish on a patch of grass while he caught some more fish. The fish came back to life and jumped into the sea. The shepherd was dumbfounded and tried tasting the grass. This caused him to jump into the sea as well and the waters of the sea made him into a god. I'll look him up later, but this god goes back to the time of Homer at least.

    So people becoming gods just because is a thing in at least classical myth.

    The god was Glaucus, he was worshiped by sailors, he was prayed to for protection at sea and seems to...
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  • Astromancer
    replied to A lost pantheon?
    Still it would give the pantheon in question motives to reconnect with the world. They might seek worshipers, or a mantel they could use....
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  • Astromancer
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    A few celebrities might make it to godhood. Author celebrities like Shakespeare or Shelley might make it. Twain, Dickens, Poe, Tolstoy, Zola, and similar authors might make it. Of media celebrities only Charlie Chaplin, Elvis, Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne, the Beatles, Greta Garbo, and Marylin Monroe, have the kind of sustained impact to make it. I could really only see the Beatles, because of their mystical influences making it.

    Of the author celebrities, a higher number might make it because of sustained Influence. I could see Ursula Le Guin and Harlan Ellison waking up shocked to...
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  • Astromancer
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    Valid and laudible....
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  • Astromancer
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    On the Priests, I ask the nuns. They say pedophiles are rare but nasty. The nuns do say two-thirds of Priests are gay and don't know it. But the nuns though deeply perceptive don't know everything, just a great deal.

    On Jesus, the gay/straight/bi standard didn't exist then. Jesus wouldn't fit our modern definitions. Moreover, many things people in that part of the world (Eastern Mediterranean Basin) do we Westerners tend to wildly misinterpret, generally to farcical levels....
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  • Astromancer
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    Agreed, you got a like too.

    A general Sorcerer magic book that makes Socerers playable, gives Scions with a magic theme good tools, introduces the Witch and Mage callings, and gives rules for Socerers to achieve apotheosis, would be grand....
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  • Astromancer
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    You got a like for that. Ragnarok was good! Oh course the focus will need to change with each pantheon. I could see Scion: Trojan Wars focusing on how the Theoi feud with each other through human conflicts. A Scion: Oracles of the Potter and the Lamb could focus on how the Egyptian gods manipulate and shape their chosen societies. Each pantheon has different goals and needs so each special deep dive book needs to focus on different things....
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  • Astromancer
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    I was always trying to set up a Scion 1st e /Mage the Ascension crossover. But my gaming groups kept collapsing on me. Sigh!

    I had one game were certain gods used paradox to turn Mages into Scions for neferious purposes....
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  • Astromancer
    replied to Missing Gods
    Both Morgan le Fay and Merlin were described by Medieval authors as being "Worshiped as Gods by simple folk back then." More than a few Arthurian scholars assume they're both gods that have been changed to mortals in legends. Some, far fewer, say this of Arthur. Certainly Joseph Campbell wasn't the only one who thought Arthur's tale was blended with that of old gods....
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  • Astromancer
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    Eldagusto, I strongly agree about adding Baron Cimetiere, Pan (the traditional one), Eos, Morpheus, and Eos. The Roman gods Janus, Neptune (a god of springs and subterranean waters), Flora, Minerva (a goddess of skill and crafts), and Mercury (a god of markets and transit as opposed to comunication and travel, certainly Mercury was never a guide of dead souls).
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  • Astromancer
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    Both Oberon and Mab predate Shakespeare by centuries. Mab is a form of Meave (sic) and is Irish. There is debate about Oberon. And I did say they were associated not part of the Tautha.

    As for Hercules. The ancient Greeks and Romans worshiped him more widely than they worshiped Hera, Ares, or Hephaestus....
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  • Astromancer
    started a topic Missing Gods

    Missing Gods

    What it says on the tin. Gods that we want to see show up later.

    I'm glad the Loa are promised. The Baron was particularly missed.

    For the Theoi four stand out. Hercules, who had more temples in ancient Greece/Hellas than several of the standard twelve and was a major deity in ancient times. Hecate, again a major figure. Iris, also a messenger of the gods. And the Roman god Mars, who is nothing like Ares. In fact Ares was rarely worshiped in Greece and Mars was a major figure in Rome. Ares was the god of battle lust and Mars was the god of adult male social roles. For...
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  • Astromancer
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    Looking around the nets archeologists seem to say the lost culture of Sumbawa had a papuan affinity. Well that's far more than they knew before.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to A lost pantheon?
    The Hyangs might have taken in the shellshocked pantheon, or tried to finish them off. Given how little we know about the locals, we don't even have a description of how folks said they looked, you can play that how you like.
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  • Maybe they're cooks in an LA tiki bar. To keep their jobs and good names they serve excellent food and drinks. They use the power of the tikis to enchant people into high risk behavior. They avoid enchanting co-workers, to have fewer complications. They see tourists as easy meat and delight in enchanting tourists into dangerous levels of stupidly.

    How does that fit for an out of their normal territory encounter?
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  • In the revised Sorcerer book they mentioned an Irish family that had large numbers of Mages, Changelings, Kinane, Garou, and Garou Kinfolk who can use Gnosis, in it. So some families tend to produce multiple Mages or other Supernaturals. But far more Mages come from families without a tendency toward producing Mages than come from such families. And no Trad or other group has a monopoly on that sort of thing.

    If you look in at least one of the corebooks you'll see options like "Honored Lineage" for family connections that rise your status and open doors. They also have "Accursed...
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  • Astromancer
    replied to The Serpent Bracelet
    Mages aren't the only Reality Deviants around.

    Vampires

    ​There is no question, kill them. Report them first then kill them. Use fire or sunlight, there's no paradox here.

    Shapechangers

    ​They don't talk to us, do not annoy them.

    Wraiths

    Others deal with them. You aren't an expert. So leave them to experts.

    Changelings

    Why am I even surprised the Fairies exist and the Hermetics know them? Be polite and see what you can learn.

    Mummies

    ​Not here so not important...
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  • Astromancer
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    The Disparate Alliance

    We know little of them. Time to change that.

    ​The Ahl-I-Batini

    ​They call us Nephandi. Maybe we let others deal with them.

    ​The Bata'as

    ​Street voodoo mages. Maybe they've got good herbs. We could learn something.

    The Children of Knowledge

    ​Alchemists into consciousness expansion. Well the CofX seemed unimportant too. Ascension in a pill seems unlikely, but maybe they've found a way to make things easier.

    The Hollow Ones

    If it weren't for all the trouble...
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  • Astromancer
    replied to The Serpent Bracelet
    The Counsel of the Nine Traditions

    We know these people, we've fought them, now we need to make friends with them, or at least cut deals.

    The Order of Hermes

    ​They have the most clout and have so far treated us well. Smile, work with them, and look for opportunities to useful.

    Sahajiya

    ​They keep the dead quiet and calm. That these hippies can pull that off astounds me. Give them a closer look.

    The Mercurial Elites

    ​We used to be allies. See if we can mend old wounds. .

    Children of Ethe...
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