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  • Astromancer
    replied to 'Once and Future' Speculations
    Many scholars including Lucy A Paton (Whose "Fairy Mythology of Arthurian Romance" is still cited a century or more after publication) pointed out that Modred has multiple marks of being a hero figure. Paton speculated that the original figure on whom Modred is based was a major deity that the Church needed to discredit. It wasn't a conspiracy theory. She sought to analyze the connections between Arthurian Romance and the myths that shaped it....
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  • Astromancer
    Astromancer posted a Visitor Message for CTPhipps
    Sorry, I was composing my post as you posted yours. No offense intended.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to 'Once and Future' Speculations
    What do people think about Nikolai Tolstoy's work on Merlin? The Quest for Merlin.

    Amazon has it here. https://www.amazon.com/Quest-Merlin-...s=books&sr=1-3
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    Last edited by Astromancer; 09-16-2020, 07:58 PM.

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  • Astromancer
    replied to 'Once and Future' Speculations
    The woman (MZB) is dead. Let whatever evil she did be buried with her. As for her books, if there is any good in them, enjoy them if you like. And, as someone said up thread, let the money go to those done wrong.

    Now, let's remember there is more than enough medieval Arthurian material, much of it with genuinely ancient matterials embedded in them, that discussing anything post-Mallory for and reason other than models for inclusion, is a waste of precious page space.

    On with the speculations.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to 'Once and Future' Speculations
    Has anyone here read the delightful "To the Chapel Perilous"? It's not only a solid Arthurian fantasy it's a great satire on the press. You've got a Pict (he's painted blue) and a very "Margret Murray" witch who work for the British papers in an otherwise medieval Britain. The multiple aspects of the Grail are a major theme. Like Twain's "Connecticut Yankee," the satire comes at you fast but then the story becomes dark and emotional.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to 'Once and Future' Speculations
    My sister saw that book on the kitchen table after I got it from the Science Fiction Book Club. She confiscated it by her "authority" as the big sister (then as now I tower over her) and I never got to read the book. I saw it again a few years later when we visited her in Virginia Beach....
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  • Astromancer
    replied to 'Once and Future' Speculations
    I remember a couple of "Arthurian Myth but girl power version!" fantasy novels from the early 70s. Some of them were fun....
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  • Astromancer
    replied to 'Once and Future' Speculations
    Given the Grail is the Dagda's Umbrey in disguise I wouldn't blame Jesus at all....
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  • Astromancer
    replied to 'Once and Future' Speculations
    Given that the most popular and artistically successful novel on Arthurian themes in the 20th century was T.H. White's "The Once and Future King," No one of Consequence takes the point. Other major works on the theme of Arthur are either obscure in English or suficiantly high art to be simply obscure.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to Does the public know what Scions are?
    Maybe when doing a secret gods Campaign "Legend" could be called "Arete". The word simply means excellence though achievement. It doesn't change much, but it ends the argument. If you want it to.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to Mythologies like superhero genre
    I think it would make sense in a hidden gods setting for Scions to use the idea of "superheroes" as a screen. People will assume the "Superheroes" are really something more prosaic, not something more fantastic....
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  • Astromancer
    replied to Mythologies like superhero genre
    There was a Wonder Woman /Batman crossover where Joker and Scarecrow were possessed by Phobos and Deimos, I think another villain was also possessed. They were at godlike power levels then....
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  • Wasn't there a Greek altar to "The Unknown God"? From my readings in Greek, Celtic, West African ( that's a plural), Hindu, and multiple Native American mythologies, the idea of an "unknown god" seems kind of commonplace.

    Although, that said, most mythologies I've read, seem to imply the Gods crave worship. Some seem to imply a need for humanity's prayers and sacrafices. The later Greek philosophers sternly attacked the idea. But isn't this game about mythology.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to Scion 2E Demigod Kickstarter
    Wouldn't some gods be peak Boomer (speaking as a Boomer born in 1960)? Gods can be timeless or deeply concerned to a given time. Some gods would be eternally of your grandparents generation, no matter when that was. Also, if a deity's trickster form is about forcing you to go beyond your subconscious limits, wouldn't they act like those you see as the enemy?

    Some Scions who pride themselves on being (place in fashion term for aware of zeitgeist of the moment) would have to face seriously unwoke adversaries. As a child of the 1960s and 70s, if I met the same kind of being, they...
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  • Astromancer
    replied to Scion 2E Demigod Kickstarter
    The Thrice Tenth Kingdom also has the Firebird. Weren't its feathers healing charms? As with "The Forest Called Dark Night of the Soul" and all those Celtic forests you entered while chasing a white deer across a stream, there are treasures hidden along with the wonders and traps.

    Don't forget to set up tasty lures.
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    Last edited by Astromancer; 09-12-2020, 12:55 PM.

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  • Astromancer
    replied to Gods manifesting in the World
    It has relavance. Yes gods are Mythic Beings and would need to follow the logic of their own myths at least. Why not have a deity who bithely ignores or undermines their own myths incur a penalty to action or legend.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to Orisha and Loa "Titans"
    Having read "Africa's Oshun, " which is the book on that deity, all I can say is, if she's typical of the Orishas they all must multiple pervews and more.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to The Olympics in the World
    I have to wonder if Heracles is still involved in the Olympics. After all, the guy defined many of the events of the Ancient Greek Olympics, he even paced out several tracks. Heck, he probably hums "I can go the distance" and works with the younger Olympians.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to The Olympics in the World
    Given that the ancient Olympics were sacred games, and many other cultures had their own sacred games, perhaps there's a whole "Sacred Games" section of the Olympics in this setting. Maybe Heroes and Demigods are required to complete as a sacrificial act.
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  • Astromancer
    replied to [2E] Gods with more Callings
    When I proposed my God of Halloween idea I had to settle on three of the four appropriate callings (Sage, Trickster, and Liminal) in but Guardian was a perfect fit too. And the four together far more logical than any of the three alone. If we move to the profound complexity of many mythological deities, yes some have half a dozen Callings at least.
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