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  • Well, spread the word, get people buying things, posting their wants and requests. Can't justify increasing expenses if profits won't make up for it.
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  • Plus it provides some incentive to interact with non-friendly or at least not-close spirits.
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  • I think it has to be a native tongue. First Tongue is the native language of spirits. There are people and spirits who can speak Latin but it's no one's native tongue....
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  • nofather
    replied to Humanity Is Overrated
    It isn't.



    You're denying them other easily obtainable things to make them incapable of fighting.



    This is another thing you seem to be confused about. Vampires are not a species. Mages, Changelings, Prometheans, Sin-Eaters are not a species. Embraces and Awakenings and Durances, these are things that happen to normal people and outside of two exceptions, they are not capable of reproducing their own kind with any sort of consistency....
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  • nofather
    replied to Humanity Is Overrated
    Blood isn't an intrinsic part of a vampire's mind/body, so they can't power any of their abilities. Moon and Shadow Gifts aren't an intrinsic part of a werewolf, they are, as the name implies, Gifts, just like rites are a form of technology. Mages without artifacts, Hallows, rotes, mana. You could go even further and point out that simply being a vampire is not intrinsic to them, it's something granted by another vampire or a strix or some other dark power. Just like werewolves and mages and everyone else down the line.

    We've pointed this out repeatedly, you are stacking the deck....
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  • nofather
    replied to Using Physical Intensity
    Yes, it's been answered in the FAQ. Obviously you have your Blood Potency acting as a cap....
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  • nofather
    replied to Humanity Is Overrated
    Only the werewolves and Demons, really....
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  • nofather
    replied to Humanity Is Overrated
    That was a vampire baby versus a dog. B vs D....
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  • nofather
    replied to Demons and Pure Uratha
    Pure packs tend to be larger than Forsaken packs, so having a larger group than five is reasonable and possible. Some of the art, particularly that from Abrar Ajmal, tends to depict packs of werewolves in various forms. The Pure are usually particularly scary looking, with most of them looking like post-Apocalyptic warlords except for the Ivory Claws who tend to look like the executive that survived the apocalypse and rules over some nation of slavepeople who toil to get him water and air conditioning and nice suits. Appearance means a lot. They'll also likely have nasty scars, as few are 'born'...
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  • nofather
    replied to Demons and Pure Uratha
    Can they speak it eloquently? The human vocal cords and mouth and stuff aren't really suitable for it, even werewolves don't speak it well in human or dalu. I know they can speak and understand it, but eloquently is another matter.
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  • nofather
    replied to Dark Eras, Nagaraja
    'Will this sell' is a big concern in modern nights.

    Besides if it came to a new book, wouldn't most people prefer new legacies?...
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  • nofather
    replied to Humanity Is Overrated
    Really it's because of the stacking of the deck in ridiculous fashion. You're claiming that fictional humans have a fictional advantage against a fictional opponent, and backing it up by taking humans from everything that makes them humans and not balancing it out by doing the same with the supernaturals, then making them fight.



    I really don't see how eugenics has anything to do with vampires being naked humans stripped of technology and allies in a fistfight.



    Not sure where that comes from. Vampires don't care if humanity believes in vampires,...
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  • Yes they do....
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  • nofather
    replied to A Thousand Years of Night
    I think again we're coming across the 'I think it should be like this' where 'this' is not represented by the setting but by some perception of what elders are that's been developed independently of the setting.

    An arc represents 75 years or so spent pursuing something away from the All Night's Society and vampire politicking. Elders start at 150 years of undeath, maybe more with some torpor. The arcs make more sense for the urban legend and Methuselah type vampires, who have been around for a long time and not the equivalent of 'two human lifetimes' of an elder in name.
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  • You mean when you do your first Embrace?

    Not counting accidents, there's probably a lot of variation. The more bound by rules an area or group is, the longer you would be likely to wait. And the less structured a place, the more likely it's going to happen, especially since having a fledgling neonate can help you establish or reaffirm your own structure. Roving things like the Oberlochs seem practically Embrace-happy, at least among the bosses, and I think one every five years is probably a fair bet depending on circumstance, while the Morbius, a rather zealous bloodline attached...
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  • The Dark Eras 2 Kickstarter is next Thursday, the 6th.
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  • I made it up. Technically from Achaea, I suppose. But it was a placeholder to represent the various blood sorceries that aren't as popular as Theban or Cruac but still offer access to Themes and so forth.
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  • On the dot, Pale_Crusader. Unfortunately they couldn't really pin down the right mage, there were others in the way which ended up sending them on a longer route, and a few other problems that limited the usefulness of Supernal entities. In the end one found a settlement and started with the hopeful waiting for a Time mage and the other went searching in circles. They met back up a couple sessions ago with the rest of the party who sort of took the long way back through time, then one promptly got separated again as they were lured into Pangaea. Fortunately with everyone there they were, eventually,...
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  • nofather
    replied to Humanity Is Overrated
    Thank you....
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  • nofather
    replied to Demons and Pure Uratha
    The simple fact that the demon is not Forsaken or human is a plus in its favor. Angels are ephemeral entities created by a vast, powerful entity beyond the scope of man. Demons have more in common with spirits than humans. And as rebels against said entity they are more like the Pure among spirits than the Forsaken.

    The same entry from the Demon book makes further comparisons. Luna and her lunes are compared to the God-Machine and his angels. They are not confusing one for the other, though there is some suspicion that Luna is a cover for the God-Machine, but they notice similarities....
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