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  • Ghosthead
    replied to 3rd Ed Sidereals
    Yes, I think Grabowski was resistant to the idea of groups of Exalted who were explicitly not meant to have combat oriented characters within them (all that stuff about "You're in a kung fu movie! You don't get to just gesticulate magically! Fight!"). As is right and proper! SMA is really a way to unique way to enable that for "elder characters" and a play on the Sidereals established synergy between fate and the martial arts (called out clearly in our first introduction to them in the 1e Core, as you note).

    And yes, it is fun to subvert the trope (although seen...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to Monday Meeting 29/4/19
    My vague notions that if you have a large set of Exalted who are each not significant as a splat bloc, but are collectively significant if concentrated together on a basis that is across them all as splats, then consideration of non-splat based unifying forces comes more to the fore than it otherwise would.

    (Those notions seem like they must be necessarily vague, because the articulation as I recall it by Morke, of the form in which the First Age was surrounded by a wealth of diverse forms of expression of Exaltation beyond what we've traditionally known, was pretty a vague and inchoate...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to Monday Meeting 29/4/19
    I have some mixed feelings about that.

    On the one hand, always kind of doubted how much these splats could be fleshed out into the setting, or rather more how much the labour would be rewarded by being actually played and sold (given how mechanically intensive 3e seems in particular per splat, but how intensive almost any edition of Exalted would be that gave splats the weight of rules the audience wants). So not hugely surprised.

    On the other, I did enjoy the picture posed by Morke about First Age Solars in 3e surrounded by a constellation of heroes, rather than simply...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to Do you play Ex3?
    Lioness, you're right of course, and that is an appropriate correction on my statement above.
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  • The Doctor probably no sells some golden charlatan's attempts to turn him into a loyal 'Chosen' (and being a Twilight doesn't really offer him anything much more anyway)... At least that's how I'd imagine it shaking out in a Dr Who story.

    The normal human characters probably work out as Dr Lovemonkey says (though I really see Ash as more of Zenith - Army of Darkness Ash is the best Ash), while the powered characters I'm not sure about whether Exaltation would actually be a step up for them, or compatible with what they do (peak Cloud Strife don't need no damn Solar Dawn Exaltation...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to Do you play Ex3?
    Previous devs were almost complete opposites in online style. Morke made distant pronouncements and generally didn't seem to like interacting online at all very much (thought it was a waste of time and source of bad ideas I'd guess). Holden was a fierce, brash, hyperbolic poster who would go extremely far in rhetoric and sometimes to his opponent's character in order to win every argument and sell every aspect of his personal vision without compromise, rather than subject his ideas to any sort of examination.

    Some of their ideas were bad (mostly towards their 2e run) and good (mostly...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to What are Iconic Fae Powers?
    That seems like a true point, but less so for characters that aren't politically prominent... Are players really going to worry about why a Ragara Myrrun type (should he appear and *not* promptly explode), not really involved in politics, just very cultivated in essence, might be Essence 6?

    Plus to some extent, you can relax it in a given game by upping the essence scores of the Realm NPCs should they appear in your game - the designers tend to be fairly explicit that statblocs are just a guideline after all (going back to GCG saying that if Ahlat seems like a pushover, whatever,...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to 3rd Ed Sidereals
    You definitely can, it's just an annoying meme to me to see TSS described as iconic to them. It's like if Solars had as a signature martial art the "Glorious Throne Style" that revolved around using others to fight for them as they issued orders to 'subjects'. You could claim with justification that this wouldn't undermine any given Solar who actually wants to personally be strong, but it would still be kind of an annoying statement to me about where Solars are supposed to go as characters. I wouldn't mind either style (one like TSS or perhaps a Glorious Throne Style ) turning up...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to 3rd Ed Sidereals
    That is, the core of Sidereals to me is as being personally effective because they have the skill of an Exalt and the ability to see and manipulate Fate such that they are moving with and the world is moving with them towards the same goals, and this is particularly pronounced when they literally or metaphorically tap into the core themes of the Maidens (Journeys, Battles, Endings, Secrets, Serenity). They're very much not defined as people who are not so personally effective, but it doesn't matter because they are able to use Fate abilities to get other people to be effective on their behalf...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to 3rd Ed Sidereals
    About 50:50 with you there Wizard. I'm not 100% committed to the 1e set, although there are some great standouts in their social set that I would like to see return - "Avoiding the Truth Technique", "Shun The Smiling Lady", everything else is a lot more negotiable (many Charms just won't translate, and some may but are a bit more questionable).

    On the other hand I (probably alone!) hate the meme of Throne Shadow style as representing Sidereals better than VBS with a passion. For me, you play a Martial Artist Sidereal to be a badass ninja warrior descending from...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to 3rd Ed Sidereals
    Haquim, I understand a lot of these concerns but I think they're mostly in the realms of "The designers need to consider them, more than insurmountable problems.

    Sidereals have limited numbers? Then they have to bulk up the degree to which Exigents, gods and Dragonblooded can and will work with them and are capable of opposing other forces (the Lunar Exalted, etc.)

    Sidereals have limited charms? Then the designers will need to make it so, no matter how many custom Charms a Lunar or Solar gets, they still stay about within the ranges of the power of a Sidereal who...
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  • Ghosthead
    replied to Mortal Sorcerers in the Realm
    On a further tangent to the topic, this discussion makes more wonder what the Immaculate stance on the Salinan Working is, if they can tell that it exists. Some mysterious pattern in the world leading talented adepts towards sorcery - it seems like that could be played as either "The work of the Immaculate Dragons!" or "Leftovers of anathema sorcery", and probably others.
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