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  • No. That's 40k level of 100% extreme parody/satire on the Middle Ages.

    And besides what you've tried to show is practical arrangements around weddings as a socio-economic contract. Not chivalry and not romance....
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to More Female Antediluvians
    Smart, or powerful.

    Or maybe he was forced to start to think after the Third Generation rose up against him and he had to keep away from revealing his location to them? There are certainly many different ways to look at this.



    I don't think they were per necessity or even likely idiots, as in drooling fools who can't understand or manage anything but the most basic things.

    But that don't mean they are some wise men or masterminds. The important part I want to stress is that at the time when the Third Generation was sired and when it rose up against...
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to More Female Antediluvians
    I feel that this isn't entirely straigh logic (I hope this comes out well in English). We have to remember the incredible power that Enoch had and thus if he wants to style himself as wise, who is foolish or alive now to say that he's actually mediocre or even a fool? Its like any other very powerful individual that people don't want to anger and so please with praise.

    And I could of course be entirely wrong but it seems to me that Caine and the Second Generation were probably not very smart at all given what kind of people were turned into the Third Generation. Thus I don't think...
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to Dark Ages Settings...
    They only touched on it. It got nothing remotely compared to the Dark Ages or the Final Nights....
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to Dark Ages Settings...
    Different enough to be fascination and have suprises and similar enough to be relatable.

    Victorian Age!
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  • Awesome! More free stuff!
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  • Awesome, thanks for sharing this information.
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to V5 Clan Tzimisce
    Just like the post above I don't like the addition of Dominate to the Clan. In fact I reject any suggestion where the Tzimisce have any Discipline connected social manipulation like Dominate or Presence.

    In my opinion the Tzimisce ruled by fear because they simply didn't have a solid way to base their rule on Dominate or Presence. Hence fear remained when they could not reliably force obedience or love from their subjects by supernatural means.

    Giving them Dominate would affect the whole concept of the Clan in the Ventrue/Lasombra direction and I think we don't need another...
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  • Thanks.

    EDITED...
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    Last edited by Gurkhal; 03-09-2020, 12:56 PM.

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  • Thanks guys! Lots of excellent stuff coming in.

    I'll try to go through the material and decide how to take on Scandinavia by Night. I've not decided on DA, Victorian or Final Nights. But probably not Final Nights as I don't want to be outmanouvered too easily by my cunning players. :P

    EDITED: Probably going with Victorian setting as that allows me to include stuff from both DA and Final Nights and its something I am myself interested in.
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  • Very sorry to hear you didn't have a great time here, but I'm happy for your baby.

    Our language is the most beautiful on earth and we if we don't have the right to mock our ancestral enemies, the Danes, we take that right. :P

    I'll spare you my comments on the flaws of Swedish society and our domestic politics....
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  • MyWifeIsScary
    Well, I'm happy that you had a good experience with Sweden. For myself I've been living in it for almost 33 years and I still think it can work pretty well for a VtM game. Will it need to be modified according to the World of Darkness ways? Probably, but life isn't an utopia here and with Neoliberal influence infecting every party in parlament, except the one most to the left, I really see alot of potential for things going south.

    Yeah, summers are nice but really, that's more flavor than a problem to me.

    In regards to population Sweden does have...
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  • Well, I also think that the Road of Kings is perhaps his most likelty Road. It will mean that he'll have to change some stuff in how he lives his unlife but in the end having Cainites on a Road where they do, according to the Road, bad things from time to time in their self-interest shouldn't be anything new among Caine's brood. Not all people on a Road are or end up as a paragons after all.
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  • Gurkhal
    started a topic Material on Scandinavia in VtM

    Material on Scandinavia in VtM

    This is just a general question. But are there any official books that detail Scandinavia from a VtM (also including DA) perspective to more than three or four paragraphs?

    I'm playing with the idea of a game up there, as I feel that I need some variation from the numerous campaigns my group has played in another setting for two or three years by now, and so thought that I would check for what official stuff there is before I move on to my own designs.

    The only thing I recall hearing was that its considered Gangrel territory but not much than that and that there are the...
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to What is your 'cover' in vtm?
    EDITED: Sorry, missed the topic of the thread.
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  • EDITED: My mistake. Forget about it.
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    Last edited by Gurkhal; 03-06-2020, 12:25 AM.

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  • For my own worldbuilding I would probably make it easy in the Modern Nights to just say that the Ashirra and Laibon, or at least their establishments, joined the Camarillas as they both see a value in the Traditions of "Caine", do not value a conflict with Western Kindred for its own sake, like the idea of cooperation in a more connected world and don't like the Sabbat (the example from Mesoamerica was probably a selling point in that direction) and after joining the Camarilla - unlife continued as before with no change whatsoever except that they have a Camarilla logo on their card...
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to V5 - Lupine power level
    Thank you. But in regards to rules I like to keep it as simple as possible a I'm not a "rules guy". In my opinion 1e Requiem is my favorite system with its simplicity which allows me to focus on the story and the characters. So I think I'll use the Vampire translation guide to simply port VtM/DA over to VtR rules and go from there....
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to V5 - Lupine power level
    I'm very sorry to hear such. I guess I won't get V5 after all....
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  • Gurkhal
    replied to V5 - Lupine power level
    I think what you are missing, from my potentially ignorant position, is that when vampires goes to kill something they don't duel at a pre-determined location like chivalrous knights according to set rules.

    Its ambushes, silver weapons, targeting third parties, drones, booby traps and anything you can come up with to create a situation where the vampires can bring maximum advantage when taking down the werewolf with minimum risk to themselves. Hence as long as they have decent intelligence scores I can absolutely think they'll manage to get some plan together that is "hunting...
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