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  • #91
    Let me put out a counter argument.

    You see anything about the New World of Darkness in the news? No?

    I've seen something about one World of Darkness, and it doesn't look like the new World at all.

    Does this make me think Paradox doesn't respect the IP? Yeah.

    Now, with that said, that's nothing but rumormongering. The simple fact is that we don't know shit about what's going on, and we can't react at all until we do. The best we can do is sit, wait, and hope for the best.

    But please understand why some of us are pessimistic.


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    • #92
      Add to that: Paradox already is talking to By Night Studios, publishers of the LARP rules. They seem to be presently in negotiations. If they are consolidating, that might not bode well for OPP.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Murder-of-Crows View Post
        Add to that: Paradox already is talking to By Night Studios, publishers of the LARP rules. They seem to be presently in negotiations. If they are consolidating, that might not bode well for OPP.
        +1 for Awareness

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        • #94
          Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
          Let me put out a counter argument.

          You see anything about the New World of Darkness in the news? No?

          I've seen something about one World of Darkness, and it doesn't look like the new World at all.

          Does this make me think Paradox doesn't respect the IP? Yeah.

          Now, with that said, that's nothing but rumormongering. The simple fact is that we don't know shit about what's going on, and we can't react at all until we do. The best we can do is sit, wait, and hope for the best.

          But please understand why some of us are pessimistic.
          This is where my headspace is as well.


          "Nihhina kalekal-zidu kal masun, kal manudanadu. Nihhina kalekal-zidu nukal shaghu-desasudu — nihhina kalekal-zidu kal innu-desasudu udhkal samm." Arthur Ashe
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          • #95
            I blame it upon Masquerade being what was used as the source material for the video games putting them as more notable in the public eye.

            I would definitely be disappointed if New got canceled due to simple lack of notoriety or claim to fame as a cost saving measure.


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            • #96
              Originally posted by BigDamnHero View Post
              This is where my headspace is as well.
              To give that a more positive (but of course just as speculative) spin: Paradox Interactive makes computer games. The oWoD is a known brand in computer gaming, nWoD isn't. Tons of people who have never heard of nWoD, who even may well have never played any tabletop RPG at all, still know what the World of Darkness is about, so it's only natural that this is the news they're focusing on. That doesn't mean that they don't respect nWoD, Exalted and so on, I think it's just as possible (and in my opinion, quite likely) that they'll let the other gamelines continue running as they have before, since they've clearly made this move so they can make oWoD computer games, that's the core IP they're concerned with so this is what the news will be about.

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              • #97
                Why should anyone be worried? As a long time fan of Paradox, this comes as absolutely fantastic news!

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                • #98
                  Again, we don't know. Apparently, talks are underway with BNS at least, so there are odds of hearing something today.


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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Blitzburger View Post
                    Why should anyone be worried? As a long time fan of Paradox, this comes as absolutely fantastic news!
                    I feel like those of us who are worried have given ample reason in the preceding posts.


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                    • Official CK2 Exalted expansion? "Princes of the Earth"?

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                      • Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
                        Let me put out a counter argument.

                        You see anything about the New World of Darkness in the news? No?

                        I've seen something about one World of Darkness, and it doesn't look like the new World at all.

                        Does this make me think Paradox doesn't respect the IP? Yeah.

                        Now, with that said, that's nothing but rumormongering. The simple fact is that we don't know shit about what's going on, and we can't react at all until we do. The best we can do is sit, wait, and hope for the best.

                        But please understand why some of us are pessimistic.
                        I do understand, espescially since this is your job (and a job I'm kinda jealous about xD)

                        However what news are you referring to? I assume in the Paradox/WW announcements but I don't see anything about either cWoD or nWoD to be honest. The only thing I see is "White Wolf Publishing is a licensing business that owns and manages intellectual properties including World of Darkness, Vampire: The Masquerade and Werewolf: The Apocalypse." and this doesn't tell us much as "World of Darkness" could refer to both and I'm pretty sure it's only because they didn't want to quote the many games under the IP purview. I could be wrong though.

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                        • Originally posted by Blitzburger View Post
                          Why should anyone be worried? As a long time fan of Paradox, this comes as absolutely fantastic news!
                          Again, some of us, reading what news there is, wonder if we still have jobs.

                          Also, I've never even heard of Paradox before today, so I admittedly feel intruded upon.

                          EDIT: Kinoko, check out the old White Wolf Page and tell me what you see.


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                          The world is not beautiful, therefore it is.-Keiichi Sigsawa, Kino's Journey
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                          • These from the Onyx Path Twitter account (which is basically what Rose said):

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                            Delighted about our new friends at @PdxInteractive! Can't wait to work with you
                            Originally posted by Onyx Path Publishing
                            We're touched that so many of you are concerned for us! Thanks for your faith in us. We'll have more to say when we can. Stay tuned.



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                            • Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
                              Let me put out a counter argument.

                              You see anything about the New World of Darkness in the news? No?

                              I've seen something about one World of Darkness, and it doesn't look like the new World at all.
                              Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that and drew some connections.

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                              • Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
                                Again, some of us, reading what news there is, wonder if we still have jobs.

                                Also, I've never even heard of Paradox before today, so I admittedly feel intruded upon.

                                EDIT: Kinoko, check out the old White Wolf Page and tell me what you see.
                                They made great games, the best city builder ever (Cities: Skyline), a very good, acclaimed old school RPG (Pillars of Eternity) and many other well received games being strategy or tactical (Europa Universalis, Magicka 2, Crusader Kings etc...) they are pretty well renowned in the gaming community (a lot more trusted than CCP since even their player base are often unhappy with them haha)
                                Last edited by kinok0; 10-29-2015, 12:53 PM.

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