Originally posted by semicasual
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No. We are the rough equivalent of unlanded knights or samurai, not yet titled nobility. A baron, count, duke would all fall under the title of "Lord", which is why there is different graduations of the rank. I originally planned on using said titles, but I felt that it would be too confusing. In hindsight, that might have been incorrect.
Lord Iysen is the equivalent of a King/Queen. She is the monarch of a major domain
Her 3 Marcher-Lord vassals are the equivalent of Dukes. Powerful lords, ranking right below the monarch.
Any landed nobles beneath them (or, alternatively, sworn to Lord Iysen), would be the equivalent of Barons/Counts. Kasai's father is one of these, but an absurdly poor and marginalized one.
At the bottom of the totem pole, landed retainers with a single village, are the equivalent of landed knights or ji-samurai. We, as retainers, are equivalent in social rank, but we don't yet have any land.
The system is several different levels of mixed-up. It doesn't go: Monarch > Duke > Baron > Retainer. Lord Iysen has three "Dukes" in her service, but she also has "Barons" and "landed retainers".
Functionally, we would be one of the mooks that make up the bulk of this unit.
Or,
Many, if not most, noble families don't have either enough money or enough land to divide it equally between children, and their children's children, and so on and so forth. In response, many second and third (and later) noble children either:
1) Go become a monk at a monastery/abbey (which are pretty much the same thing). Noble children, who can almost-always read and write, have plenty of chances to rise far (as far as a mortal can rise, pretty much) in the Immaculate Faith, and many abbots/abbesses are influential, powerful, wealthy, etc.
2) Suck it up, and learn a trade.
3) Compete in the tournament circuit
4) Try and become a retainer to a landed noble.
After a war is won, a Lord will often repossess the estates and manors held by the vassals of the former lord, and give them out as gifts to their retainers and followers for their (hopefully continued) loyalty, and to put the costs of maintaining a fully-armed heavy cavalryman on the land as opposed to their wallet. Or, alternatively, they will grant these retainers land in the hinterlands of their domains, in order to prompt the settlement/taming of underutilized land, or to defend against the Hill-Tribes and bandits. Marcher-Lords are but the largest and most obvious of this last group.
This can, and often does, backfire. Most Liege-Lords aren't going to be paying that much attention to what one of their retainers is doing in the backwoods, and a crafty landed retainer can (and they often do) effectively hold more land that what they were officially enfeoffed, by attracting the enterprising young sons and daughters of commoners, who themselves might lack for inheritance opportunities in the hilariously-crowded lowland valleys. The commoners settle in the lands around the retainers estate, giving them more money than what they should "officially" have, in turn giving the retainer more power, who can then attract more commoners, and build more infrastructure, again and again, until the retainer (or, more likely, the retainers children, grandchildren or what-have-you), are effectively Liege-Lords in their own right. Some, if not many, of these not! Lords eventually end up building castles, and attracting retainers and vassals of their own. And, really, there is very little the original Liege-Lord can do about it, asides from either:
1) Accepting them as a peer, or
2) Besieging their castle, in hostile terrain
..... Most Liege-Lords do the first. If not because the second is expensive as hell, then because by that point they might very well be intermarried to the now-high nobility family, and actually view them as a peer.
In fact, several of the (smaller) domains in the Hundred Kingdoms are the cultural offspring of these gifted estates waxing in power as the original liege wanes.
Plus, Lord Iysen can make any retainer any "degree" of vassal she wants. They don't have to start out as a "mere" landed retainer. If she values their service, she could technically bump them all the way up to "Duke" status. Kinda like how Oda Nobunaga promoted Totoyomi Hideyoshi.
Finally, overwhelmingly most of the land held by Liege-Lords is going to be relatively undersettled, when compared to the lands right by the Red, Black and Blue Rivers. The lands by the rivers are the flattest, and the most agriculturally productive (therefore, the wealthiest), and most of the population is going to be clustered there. The hinterlands Xia are almost empty by comparison, as they abut the territory of the Dumonipocasset Confederation, and therefore the Hill-Tribes de facto own it. There are still villages there, but they are few and far between.
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