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  • #16
    Thanks for this, I'll be introducing this system to my group this coming Thursday. I think it should go over nicely!

    One question. For character creation, it says "In the descriptions of each Exalt type, it gives guidelines for the appropriate number of powers, SFX, and Specialties for a starting character," but I can't seem to find those guidelines. There are guidelines for what sorts of powers and SFX they should have, but not the number.

    I'm thinking of letting them have 3 power sets (4d8 or 2d8+1d10), 2 SFX per set, or 5 if you add another limit. If there are pre-established rules, just let me know where.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by blackwingedheaven View Post
      I think that you're focusing on the wrong detail--it's not about the man's back, but his perspective.
      Although I think this is debatable, I understand there's only so much that free art can do. I didn't mean to be rude, I was just letting you know what I think, just like you asked. So now I'll enter silent mode and won't mention any of this ever again. Over and out.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
        Although I think this is debatable, I understand there's only so much that free art can do. I didn't mean to be rude, I was just letting you know what I think, just like you asked. So now I'll enter silent mode and won't mention any of this ever again. Over and out.
        Dude, I didn't accuse you of being rude or ask you to stop talking. I was just giving my counterpoint. =/



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        • #19
          Originally posted by Primefactorx01 View Post
          One question. For character creation, it says "In the descriptions of each Exalt type, it gives guidelines for the appropriate number of powers, SFX, and Specialties for a starting character," but I can't seem to find those guidelines. There are guidelines for what sorts of powers and SFX they should have, but not the number.

          I'm thinking of letting them have 3 power sets (4d8 or 2d8+1d10), 2 SFX per set, or 5 if you add another limit. If there are pre-established rules, just let me know where.
          That's getting expanded in the final release version. Generally, a starting character has one or two power sets. Starting Solars should have two or three power traits at d8 and one or two at d10, with two to four SFX, in their primary power set. A secondary power set should include one or two powers at d8 and no more than one power at d10, with one or two SFX. If that sounds vague, it's because it's supposed to be! It's actually way more firm than the original MHR rules, which were basically "pick what you like." That works really well for a supers game, but I've found that Exalted players want more guidelines than that.



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          • #20
            Originally posted by blackwingedheaven View Post

            It's actually way more firm than the original MHR rules, which were basically "pick what you like." That works really well for a supers game, but I've found that Exalted players want more guidelines than that.
            I'm definitely the "more guidelines" type. In fact, during the ~5 or so hours while I was waiting for someone to tell me "It's on page XX, silly!", I may or may not have started writing up guidelines for my players to start creating their characters w/ examples. I.. I may have gone too far in the other direction with too much structure . I think I came up with a neat idea to differentiate the different types of exalted though!

            I'll have to see how much structure my players are interested in.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Primefactorx01 View Post

              I'm definitely the "more guidelines" type. In fact, during the ~5 or so hours while I was waiting for someone to tell me "It's on page XX, silly!", I may or may not have started writing up guidelines for my players to start creating their characters w/ examples. I.. I may have gone too far in the other direction with too much structure . I think I came up with a neat idea to differentiate the different types of exalted though!

              I'll have to see how much structure my players are interested in.
              Your extra guidelines are very nice! A more elegant way to handle it might be to assign Xd8 to each splat, then use the standard split/double rules from MHR as well as assigning a maximum die type. For example, a Solar Charms set would include 6d8 (max. d10), which would allow them to have six power at d8 or four powers at d8 and one at d10, or two powers at d8 and two at d10. A Terrestrial Charms set would include 4d8 (max. d8), for a final power set of four powers at d8, or three powers at d8 and two at d6, and so on.

              If you don't mind, would you care if I use some of your ideas in a sidebar for the final product? If you're interested, just PM me with whatever contact information or details you'd like to have included in the document.



              "The true object of all human life is play. Earth is a task garden; heaven is a playground." -G.K. Chesterton

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              • #22
                Here's the draft of the "strict character creation rules" sidebar I'm thinking of right now:


                By default, Cortex Plus Heroic is designed to skip past the “character creation minigame” aspect of most role-playing games. Players are encouraged to come up with unique SFX and Limits, to assign dice to powers as they see fit, and to generally take control of their characters. The system is self-correcting enough that most “power builds” wind up being only slightly more effective than a character built for pure story reasons, and only in certain situations. Generally, players and their GM should sit down and have a mature conversation about every PC that enters the game, their motivations, their abilities, and so on.

                That said, some players (and GMs) rather enjoy a stricter mechanical definition for their characters. If your group needs more guidance, follow these rules for building power sets:

                Dice Sets: Each character type gains Xd8 in power traits. Dice can be split, allowing 1d8 to become 2d6, or merged, allowing 2d8 to become 1d10. Every character type has a dice maximum for their traits at character creation. The character’s primary power set must be his “type” charms set (so Solar Charms, Terrestrial Charms, etc.). This set always has the Exhausted Limit. A character can take an additional Limit relating to his personality or history in exchange for an additional d8 of power traits or an additional two SFX. Character types also include how many dice worth of Specialties they receive.

                Panoply and Martial Arts: A character can spend 1d8 of his power traits to gain a second power set of either Panoply or Martial Arts. This set starts with one power group. Both kinds of power sets start with 2d8 to distribute as above, with a maximum of d8. A Panoply power set always has the Artifact Limit, and a Martial Arts set always has the Conscious Activation Limit.


                Solars: Solars have 6d8 worth of power traits, with a maximum value of d10. They begin with three SFX, plus their caste SFX. Solars have 3d8 to spend on Specialties.

                Lunars: Lunars have 5d8 worth of power traits, with a maximum value of d10. They automatically possess Shapechanging d8, which they can improve with their power dice. They begin with three SFX, plus their caste SFX. Lunars have 4d8 to spend on Specialties.

                Sidereals: Sidereals have 4d8 worth of power traits, with a maximum value of d10. They begin with three SFX, plus their caste SFX. A Sidereal that purchases a Martial Arts power set has 3d8 (maximum d10) in that power set, rather than 2d8 (maximum d8). Sidereals have 5d8 to spend on Specialties.

                Dragon-Blooded: Terrestrials have 4d8 worth of power traits, with a maximum value of d8. They begin with two SFX, plus their aspect SFX. A Dragon-Blooded that purchases a Panoply power set has 3d8 (maximum d8) in that power set, rather than 2d8 (maximum d8). Dragon-Blooded have 4d8 to spend on Specialties.

                Abyssals: Abyssals have 6d8 worth of power traits, with a maximum value of d10. They begin with three SFX, plus their caste SFX. Abyssals have 4d8 to spend on Specialties.

                Infernals: Infernals have 6d8 worth of power traits, with a maximum value of d10. They begin with three SFX, plus their caste SFX. Infernals have 4d8 to spend on Specialties.

                Alchemicals: Alchemicals have have 4d8 worth of power traits, with a maximum value of d10. They begin with two SFX, plus their aspect SFX. An Alchemical that purchases a Panoply power set has 3d8 (maximum d10) in that power set, rather than 2d8 (maximum d8). Alchemicals have 4d8 to spend on Specialties.



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                • #23
                  Good sidebar for the people that MUST HAS defined rules. I for one will stick with the more lax typical Cortex methods.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by blackwingedheaven View Post
                    If you don't mind, would you care if I use some of your ideas in a sidebar for the final product? If you're interested, just PM me with whatever contact information or details you'd like to have included in the document.
                    You mean... you mean I can be a part of something? I'm honored.

                    Originally posted by UltraFennec View Post
                    Good sidebar for the people that MUST HAS defined rules. I for one will stick with the more lax typical Cortex methods.
                    While I can appreciate the more lax method... few things are more terrifying to me than a completely blank sheet. Having a bit more structure makes things infinitely easier for me.

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                    • #25
                      Since the final version of Blood and Fire is about to drop (like, literally, I'm just waiting for one piece of art), I figured I'd go ahead and put up a preview of The Hundred Devils Manual, the big book of monsters, adversaries, and additional material for Blood and Fire. The link goes to a Google document; I'd really appreciate it if people could let me know what additional allies, enemies, and options they'd like to see in the final version of the book. Bare minimum, I'm committed to writing up at least one character of every caste for every Exalted type. Any other suggestions for things people would like to see?

                      The Hundred Devils Manual for Exalted: Blood and Fire



                      "The true object of all human life is play. Earth is a task garden; heaven is a playground." -G.K. Chesterton

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                      • #26
                        Now that I'm back from vacation, I've got the last of the art in and finished up the document for release. I've added an example of play, the character sheet, and cleaned up some minor mistakes in the text. I'm tentatively calling this the Version 1.0 of Exalted: Blood and Fire. If you find any mistakes or think of any additions to the text that would be useful, please make a note on the errata spreadsheet. Hope everyone enjoys!
                        Last edited by blackwingedheaven; 03-24-2014, 12:52 AM.



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                        • #27
                          "See page XX for more information on stunts."

                          Ah, a true throwback to good old White Wolf.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by heroicantagonist View Post
                            "See page XX for more information on stunts."

                            Ah, a true throwback to good old White Wolf.
                            It really is, actually. I left it in on purpose. XD

                            Though, I think that whole passage got removed in the most recent set of revisions, which makes me a little sad.



                            "The true object of all human life is play. Earth is a task garden; heaven is a playground." -G.K. Chesterton

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                            • #29
                              Due to a few errors that slipped through the cracks, including an entire missing section (?!), Exalted: Blood and Fire Version 1.1 is already coming out. Hopefully there won't be as many issues this time around. XD



                              "The true object of all human life is play. Earth is a task garden; heaven is a playground." -G.K. Chesterton

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                              • #30
                                As continuing support for Exalted: Blood and Fire, I've put together a nice little cheat sheet for common questions about the Cortex Plus system. If there's anything you think should be on here, please let me know!

                                Blood and Fire Cheat Sheet v1



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