I'm just going to leave these vandalized chapter comics here.

[TheCountAlucard]

(My understanding was that since the Tya consider themselves male, referring to one as "she" would be pretty rude.)

[Khantalas]

The other person is Righteous Tsunami, and he is the best.

((I keep calling Tya "he" despite that all the game text so far has called them "she". Is that right? Is there a Tya-specific pronoun we should use while speaking English, or is "she" actually correct? Tya confuse me immensely, linguistically speaking.))

[UltraFennec]

Nazri has a little headshot in MoEP: Sidereals in the same section that has bits on um...Chejop's there, and Ayesha Ura, I think Gracious Shaia too? And like one other person, maybe. He looked vaguely Nigerian to me, and was smiling warmly.

[TheCountAlucard]

To be fair, her backstory predates akuma.

[Erinys]

Nazri? He's the head of the Convention of Fire, I think, and tries to help young independents, but he isn't a leader of them, because that's like herding cats. And he's probably too dedicated to his actual job to bother with that even if some independents wanted him to lead a new faction.

I dunno what he looks like.

The setting's only prominent Black male is the son of a single mother who is a prostitute. He becomes a prizefighter and starts pointless beef onstage so he can get rich. He spends all his money on hookers and blow. He Exalts during a hangover and becomes a holy-roller who runs around Creation with his shirt off showing off his tattoos, alternately yelling at his problems and punching them in the face. At one point he mugs a Lunar Exalt for his bling. And he's an angry Black man. Named Panther.

Weellll I didn't know/remember most of that or see it in that light before. Wow, yeah that's not good.

Also I just remembered that the most prominant black woman was sold into slavery as a baby and grew up in an evil demon cult. Which would probably be fine and an interesting background for a Solar*, on her own, but suddenly in the context of the sig circle it looks less cool.


*I do have to laugh though at the Salmalin for kicking her out. A woman they raised from birth told them she had magical Exalted powers and asked how the demons wanted her to use them, and they somehow decided they didn't want a completely loyal Solar akuma in their cult. *shakes head*

[Robert Vance]

Wasn't the leader of the Sidereal "independent" faction also a black man? Or am I misremembering?

The fact that both you and I can only kinda hazily recall that guy is probably a good indicator that's he not a prominent character.

[Korhal_IV]

The setting's only prominent Black male is the son of a single mother who is a prostitute. He becomes a prizefighter and starts pointless beef onstage so he can get rich. He spends all his money on hookers and blow. He Exalts during a hangover and becomes a holy-roller who runs around Creation with his shirt off showing off his tattoos, alternately yelling at his problems and punching them in the face. At one point he mugs a Lunar Exalt for his bling. And he's an angry Black man. Named Panther.

...okay, when you put it that way I feel kind of ashamed for thinking he was a cool character.

Wasn't the leader of the Sidereal "independent" faction also a black man? Or am I misremembering?

[TheCountAlucard]

"With his shirt off" implies he, in fact, owns a shirt. I'm not so sure of that.

[Lula]

And if that was the only thing written about him, he would be awesome.

Though I have never been certain why he is so disliked, having only 2 books that depict him. Is it that he's the Angry Black Man trope? He does seem like that.

The setting's only prominent Black male is the son of a single mother who is a prostitute. He becomes a prizefighter and starts pointless beef onstage so he can get rich. He spends all his money on hookers and blow. He Exalts during a hangover and becomes a holy-roller who runs around Creation with his shirt off showing off his tattoos, alternately yelling at his problems and punching them in the face. At one point he mugs a Lunar Exalt for his bling. And he's an angry Black man. Named Panther.

[Agentwestmer]

Jen... If you read this message... this thread calls out for you like nothing else.

[Erinys]

Panther's story in the 1E core makes him so cool ;_;

And if that was the only thing written about him, he would be awesome.

Though I have never been certain why he is so disliked, having only 2 books that depict him. Is it that he's the Angry Black Man trope? He does seem like that.

[The MG]

What has that got to do with this thread other than that Lula has written here?

Literally nothing.

And that's not a colloquial "literally." It's a literal "literally."

[Venatius]

Well. I've got an uncontrollable case of the giggles now.

[Robert Vance]

Is it?

I mean, terminology aside, is it really?

Panther's story in the 1E core makes him so cool ;_;

[Lula]

Also, why does Panther keep say 'Christ', surely a the Greek word for 'anointed one' would not be in Creation?

I was complaining about Panther and/or racism one day and when some guy posted a nearly-incomprehensible screed on colorblindness, Kukla responded "what the christ are you talking about" with no punctuation or capitals. I liked how it sounded, so I made it Panther's signature quote, adding some exclamation marks at Cromage's suggestion.