Scion Dragon & Masks of Mythos Kickstarter

[Magicjohnny]

Like if a lot of the gods can be environmentalist while still being not being ecofascist and genocidal towards mankind, why can’t the Dragons? Especially since it means you have several Dragons who can not have anything but a very antagonistic role to the player group

[SanCheck]

Honestly after enough times reading "This dragon is angry and wants to kill humanity for pollution" it all kinda bleeds together. Yes, we get it, ecoterrorism and perpetuation of that freaking "Humanity is a virus and the Earth is better without us" bullcrap that throws the bystanders and those effected by climate change under the bus instead of focusing on the very small number of people who are actually most responsible for most of the damage.

I noticed that as well. I'm annoyed with how some of them are written to fit that "theme." My group has elected to ignore some of what a few of us have brought up about since their Jormungandr clashes with the actual myth. We're going to go through the rest when the books come out and talk about how much we are going to use.

[Magicjohnny]

Yeah the ecofascism stuff kinda makes it hard to see the gods as being in the wrong for fighting the Dragons

[Kyman201]

Honestly after enough times reading "This dragon is angry and wants to kill humanity for pollution" it all kinda bleeds together. Yes, we get it, ecoterrorism and perpetuation of that freaking "Humanity is a virus and the Earth is better without us" bullcrap that throws the bystanders and those effected by climate change under the bus instead of focusing on the very small number of people who are actually most responsible for most of the damage.

[Nicolas Milioni]

In honor of the new preview:

K’uk’ulkan: "ATTENTION, HUMANS OF EARTH, AND GIVE THANKS, FOR WE HAVE COME TO SAVE YOU..."

K'uh: "Sweet, the Serpents are here!"

K’uk’ulkan: "....FROM YOURSEEEEELVES!"

K'uh: "Ah, hell, the Serpents are here."

Really describes a lot of Flights, really.

You made me choke on my soda haha

[Leliel]

In honor of the new preview:

K’uk’ulkan: "ATTENTION, HUMANS OF EARTH, AND GIVE THANKS, FOR WE HAVE COME TO SAVE YOU..."

K'uh: "Sweet, the Serpents are here!"

K’uk’ulkan: "....FROM YOURSEEEEELVES!"

K'uh: "Ah, hell, the Serpents are here."

Really describes a lot of Flights, really.

[Magicjohnny]

On the Scion discord someone had a nice idea for an Heir, specifically an Heir of the Drakon with the note that some of the Drakon were children of Ares, and the Heir treats all of of Ares Scions as new uncles and aunts

[Leliel]

Yeah, increasingly, I think the Ready-Made Characters and Gods are from an earlier version.

[Raz_Fox]

On the topic of the sample characters... Marius has Legend 1 and Awareness 1 and has 5 Boons?

Was there a kind of miscommunication about how Boons were in 2e? Between this and the Necronomicon 'Flaw' saying that you can only get X boons from the fragments... Was there a miscommunication about how you obtain Boons in 2e?

Leena has “Transcendent Deception” and Arcane Calculus as her purviews. Note that this will be the only time Arcane Calculus is listed in the Pre-Mades. We don’t know what her Ivory Idol does, but if you fix Deception’s name, that’s a starting character. (Unless Transcendent [Purview] is meant to indicate it’s the Awareness-fueled version.)

I’m not going to dissect each of the others, but I suspect that the designer crossed wires and assumed that a) Scions get two purviews at character creation, b) you get to pick one Purview from a list provided by a Relic, and c) your Pantheon Purview isn’t an automatic purchase.

B) would make some of the baffling Relic designs last chapter make sense: “it’s fine that a three-dot relic has three Purviews listed, you only get to pick one!”

And while we’re talking about the PMC...

Two of the Skills you choose for your character’s Pantheon Path must be the Pantheon Skills for divine patron’s pantheon.

At a guess, I’m going to say that Occult is one of the Pantheon Skills, and Leadership may be the other? But that’s if the designer assumed that you have to have one of the skills, not both.

Then again, PMC are notoriously difficult to get right in pretty much any RPG I can name, which is a shame, because they’re a resource for the players least likely to be able to catch mistakes.

[Kyman201]

On the topic of the sample characters... Marius has Legend 1 and Awareness 1 and has 5 Boons?

Was there a kind of miscommunication about how Boons were in 2e? Between this and the Necronomicon 'Flaw' saying that you can only get X boons from the fragments... Was there a miscommunication about how you obtain Boons in 2e?

[No One of Consequence]

The sample characters have Virtue Tracks, but no Virtues ON them, as noted. Which is very odd.

Now if I were to (jokingly) suggest Virtues for the Mythos Scions it'd be "Curiosity" and "NOPE!"

Curiosity is the urge to go "Well I do want to know this thing..." and NOPE! is the urge to go "Fuck this I'm out"

Less jokingly, maybe Vision (or Fantasy/Dream) vs Nihilism?

[glamourweaver]

Thing is, I'm not sure if that's intentional or not. The Mythos is an amoral Pantheon, so if any Pantheon lacks Virtues, it's them.

It'd be cutting back on a lot of ideas and lose more than it'd gain, but I can see the logic.

Of course, we're missing the Pantheon Skills too....

Still, I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would. Having seen a Let's Play of Omori, I have an idea for a group of teenagers who become Mythos Scions after entering the Dreamlands by accident and fight monsters, villains, and insecurities all at once.

They still would need to have addressed it in character creation and traits. “Characters with Awareness no longer have Virtues”.

And they included blank tracks on the sample characters. Of course the sample characters have little connection to the rules of the game, so that’s not saying anything.

[Magicjohnny]

I like the Long preview, they feel like a full blown faction with politics and stuff, rather then a bunch of randos and assholes with vaguely similar goals. And dragon court politics is a fun idea

Thing is, I'm not sure if that's intentional or not. The Mythos is an amoral Pantheon, so if any Pantheon lacks Virtues, it's them.

It'd be cutting back on a lot of ideas and lose more than it'd gain, but I can see the logic.

Of course, we're missing the Pantheon Skills too....

Still, I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would. Having seen a Let's Play of Omori, I have an idea for a group of teenagers who become Mythos Scions after entering the Dreamlands by accident and fight monsters, villains, and insecurities all at once.

That sounds like a really cool concept. Also, I just wanted to say I love the second preview, especially the sample characters.

[Magicjohnny]

That would be fun