By the Gods I wish we had more Mummy! Gimme some Capacocha Please!

[Erinys]

I admit I'm a bit skeptical that bog mummies were meant to be mummified, and I don't recall anything about Mesoamerican mummies in all my studies of the area.

But the ancient Peruvians invented mummification long before Egypt. Granted, their mummies were reduced to skeletons first, but...


But what are these Einherjar, or what is said about them canonically?

Thank you 😊.

[Eldagusto]

I bet you could convert Shadows of Mexico to WoD if you really felt like it.

Shadows of Mexico is one of my gaps in book knowledge :P I haven't read that one yet.

Capacocha were the first imperfect spell of going west for the mummies of the Americas, later they perfected it into true life/immortality and they were the Teomallki. They are divided into four Suyu:

Chaskimallki
Intimallki
Pachamallki
Uchumallki

They were each of a different region and culture and have a favored magic.

I bet you could convert Shadows of Mexico to WoD if you really felt like it.

Eldagusto are Capacocha and mallki the same thing?

[Eldagusto]

Well I think the Croatan were the tribe that spread the farthest south, but Uktena in my opinion would have investigators in the lands of all three brothers.

Yes Pumonca were in both North and South America.

And I like to think the Capacocha in general mingled in each others territory and went as far north as that region, but there main job is guarding I guess specific cultures, but threats wander from up north so it would behoove them to learn more.

Vampire has the Tlacique who only the Setites know are a divergent bloodline of theirs, their founder was Tezcatlipoca who was a Methuselah with so great an understanding of Obtenebration it dwarfed the conquering Sabbats and he made a stronghold out of shadows.

We also have Huitzilpoctli who was Nergal/Shaitan and I wager he had his branch of Baali children. And we have a branch of Nosferatu and Gangrel populating the Area, but they may be an offshoot bloodline that the European Vampires recognized as Nosferatu and Gangrel, they may be of the drowned legacies. The Cipactli were a drowned Legacy of Crocodilian Vampires, and some believe the Samedi may have evolved partly from a native group.

The Fae had the Kachina I think farthest south of the first mentioned Nunnehi, originally they state that the Nunnehi included Native fae of both Americas but they kind of may have changed this. The Llorona are the fae tied to the crying lady myth and they were in the area.

[No One of Consequence]

So, if I was to try to outline a book about classical era Mayans, ie Kingdoms of the Jaguar, it would probably primarily focus on the Fera (Balam especially, as well as Mokole and Camazotz, with a little bit about the Uktena and perhaps Pumonica) and Mages (aside from what would become parts of the Dreamspeakers, also the Yum Cimil and certain proto-Ecstatics, and the Balamab). Then there'd be a bit about the Dark Kingdom(s) of Obsidian during this period, and a section about Mayan Capacocha (I think they would be Intimallki, but I'm not 100% sure). And then maybe some notes about vampires and changelings (as I've no idea what the 20th anniversary editions say about them specifically).

[Eldagusto]

I somehow missed the reference to the Einherjar as well, and I no longer have most of my old WOD books. I had been toying with my own ideas for Norse and Celtic Mummies, though. With the tradition of Sleepers lying under hills awaiting the time to return (i.e. King Arthur) the possibility is there. Also, there are the "Bog People" which are actual mummies found in peat bogs. I think of tying them somehow to the fae instead of the Spell of Life, just to add some flavor.

Oh Good call on the Sleeping till the country needs them idea, that does sound like mummies especially Arisen style. I've heard people wanting to toy with Bog Mummies, maybe tying them to Caibiri.

Doing Einherjar would be cool because then I could portray Valhalla! It would be fun to work on Einherjar style magic, I think I would diverge a bit more with their magic compared to other three.

[Toby Weingarten]

I somehow missed the reference to the Einherjar as well, and I no longer have most of my old WOD books. I had been toying with my own ideas for Norse and Celtic Mummies, though. With the tradition of Sleepers lying under hills awaiting the time to return (i.e. King Arthur) the possibility is there. Also, there are the "Bog People" which are actual mummies found in peat bogs. I think of tying them somehow to the fae instead of the Spell of Life, just to add some flavor.

[No One of Consequence]

I still don't have a copy of Ascension or any of the Tradition books after Euthanatos.

[Eldagusto]

You can get the pdf version on drivethrurpg.com

Oh yeah I know but I procrastinate when I didn't get a solid copy... you know for like twenty years. :P

Come on I can't be the only one!

[No One of Consequence]

You can get the pdf version on drivethrurpg.com

[Eldagusto]

So, a funny thing. The references to Einherjar in Mage's Dead Magic 2 actually refer to Mummys, and if there had been more space, it would've included guidelines for adapting Resurrection to a Norse cosmology and culture.

Interesting! I missed getting Deadmagic when I was collecting the books, I didn't know they even referenced them! Now I can yearn for something I never knew I was missing out on till now thanks!

[No One of Consequence]

So, a funny thing. The references to Einherjar in Mage's Dead Magic 2 actually refer to Mummys, and if there had been more space, it would've included guidelines for adapting Resurrection to a Norse cosmology and culture.

[Eldagusto]

Personally a project I was meaning to flesh out more was using the idea of adding the Einherjar as another group of Immortals. As well as making a more fantastical version of Highlander were they are closer to Wuxia Exalted, and Star Wars Video Game level force.