I Still don't understand a few things about Lycians

[Rucun]

They are such a interesting concept, seems a shame that the book couldn't delver deep into them. Their descriptions felt really short (probably due to the limit of words in the book) and I think I didn't really get some concepts.



About shapes.


Shapes are what? Like a inanimae Husk? Something actually physical that can interact with humans? Or are shapes like a Fae Mien? Completely chimerical and unseen by common humans? Because the book says that humanoid shapes can resist banality easier when doing things impossible for their guise. If they are like husks I can understand how a human might not find them totally unreal, but if shapes are like a fae mien, I don't understand how this helps them, since humans would not be able to see them.


Another question is about guises.

Without the two places at once rede, how far a lycian can get away from it's guise? Like a few meters? It should always be touching the guise?
If the shapes are like a fae mien, do a changeling sees the both the guise and shape, or only the shape?


About Quixotic Guises

They don't need to be bound to a physical object, just an idea, or a story, or a webpage. This means that quixotic lycians don't need the two places at once rede? They just walk freely around the world?
Can they teleport to where his guise is being represented? Like a screen showing it's site? Or a place where his story is being told?

[El Barto]

Shapes are like fae mien. As I understand it, when a lycian does something impossible for the object that is their mortal seeming, humans are able to see their shape. It's like they call on the wyld just a bit to allow their shape to be real. When that happens, husk rules apply: humanoid husks can get away with a bit of cover and not drawing attention, people noticing something wrong cause banality. Changelings only see the shape.

The guise is like inanimae phyla and anchor, but more strongly bonded. Without the two places rede, a lycian is always where their guise is since they are their guise. Think of it like toy story, you leave a toy somewhere, it moves on its own and then pretends to be inanimate and you find it somewhere else. Only difference is if it gets caught it could die of banality, hence having a human shape helps.

Quixotic guises still need the rede since they can only be in one medium at once. A story lycian can go anywhere their story is being read or told, but can only be in one of those places at any given time.

Lycians blur the lines between the dreaming and autumn world. A lot of their roleplaying aspects require working things out with your ST.

[Erinys]

As somebody with very little Changeling knowledge, can I use this thread to ask what is a Lycian in the first place? I know nothing about them. Are they Inanimae who use things like plastic toys or statues as Anchors?

[marin]

As somebody with very little Changeling knowledge, can I use this thread to ask what is a Lycian in the first place? I know nothing about them. Are they Inanimae who use things like plastic toys or statues as Anchors?

The Lycians were introduced in the C20 Players' Guide. They're chimera who awaken from inanimate objects, and as chimera they're much more constrained by their defining dream than fully fae beings are.

They're very recent in-universe, only showing up with the Evancescence around the turn of the millennium.

The Inanimae note the similarities between themselves and the Lycians, and wonder if the Lycians might replace them, or if they could merge the Lycian dream with the Inanimae dream.

A Lycian's Guise is the object that gives them life. Their Shape is the form they take as a chimera. Their Thesis is their defining dream. Like changelings, they have two Legacies, but while their primary Legacy is a standard Seelie or Unseelie Legacy, their secondary Legacy is always a Nightmare Legacy, like the primary Legacies of the Thallain, and if they make too much use of it they risk becoming nightmares themselves.

[Erinys]

Thank you.

The Lycians were introduced in the C20 Players' Guide. They're chimera who awaken from inanimate objects, and as chimera they're much more constrained by their defining dream than fully fae beings are.

So that's what makes Chimera and Faeries different. I had wondered.