V5 Boston by Night Announced

[uriel]

Most of the Hecata content was cut from the book before release. These things happen!

... Considering how much we like our ghost stories, part of me would be disappointed.

I have not read the book but as a New Englander:
- Between the witch trials, Lovecraft country, and Puritan heritage, Introducing the Order of Moloch would be 100% on point, doubt they did that.
- Boston has always had a strong connection with Japan and China since the 19th century. Not just Americans with ancestors that came from Asia, but culturally and politically.
- Also a strong medical community.
- Not everyone in Boston is Irish, sorry getting drunk on green Guiness at a college bar does not qualify.

Hence, in my games I've always envisioned Boston to be run by a Salubri Archbishop, with mostly ancient Sabbat monsters that give rise to the ghost stories, elder gods, and children of Dagon.

I like that because IRL, Boston is a very safe city for the most part, it has lots of parks and trees, and is very clean. So in the world of darkness its too clean.... and the large college student population and weekend leaf watchers are never missed.

[Haquim]

Most of the Hecata content was cut from the book before release. These things happen!

That's a pity, especially considering how in Nuova Malattia the Giovanni were basically the most powerful clan in Boston.

Anyway I've completed a couple of "missions" in the game. I'll say this. It starts pretty slow and on the surface the plot feels similar to The Fall of London but I'm absolutely loving how they dealt with the beast and the mechanics as implemented help making the experience immersive. I'had played the Council but Swansong seems to be far superior as a game.

[The Gentleman Gamer]

Any chance of that information getting published separately?

No, as fond as I am of much of the cut content (some of my best work, in places), I'll leave it on the floor or amend and repurpose it for other games. For one thing, I believe Paradox owns the material even if it was cut, and for another, releasing it as supplementary material feels like a way of causing confusion regarding canonicity.

[omenseer]

Most of the Hecata content was cut from the book before release. These things happen!

Any chance of that information getting published separately?

[Baaldam]

Speaking a little more of Swansong, that seems to be at least in part the basis of Boston by Night, it seems "100-something" was far from a precise definition of the PCs age - don't know about Emme or Leysha, but found out from another trailer that Galeb at least is a 300-something that was once an age of sail Babary Coast pirate prince.

(What also makes him older than 2/3-3/4 of the kindred cast of Dark Colony, might be said )

[The Gentleman Gamer]

I’ve got the game and the book. I’ve skimmed through it and it seems well done. I’ll try to provide more information soon but I don’t want to spoil the game for myself so I’m a little bit wary of delving into BbN too deeply. One thing I can say is I was expecting a lot of Hecata in the book but didn’t find much at first glance

Most of the Hecata content was cut from the book before release. These things happen!

[Baaldam]

Man, I remember that Giovanni Chronicles part 4 ended in Boston, with some real mafia shaenanigans going on. There were some important elements there (besides the Children of Isaac), and I hope that was at least acknowledged in the book. But who knows, I'm not really updated in the Swansong setting, so it is not impossible for me that there is some reference.

Yes, i remember some references to the Patriarca mafia family, the Milliners feud with the Kennedys among some other stuff.
Also their underwhelming attempt into updating Effie Feng into KotE mechanics.

If memory tricks me not, it would indeed make a passable base for starting a Boston chronicle, much better than Dark Colony at least.

The Swansong game i know nothing about, the short synopsis i read does not much, but the fact some of the story seems centered in a trio of "elders" (more precisely 100-something ancillas) of different clans and feelings about the Camarilla and current status quo sounds promising.

Here, for those also mostly unfamiliar. Also this.

(Also liked the "seductive amazon" of clan Toreador description, that makes me think of a big, beautiful plus size giant of an action woman, but that's just me hoping for some light messing around with clan stereotypes - or my personal fetishes, kind of 50-50 there, won't deny... )

[Haquim]

I’ve got the game and the book. I’ve skimmed through it and it seems well done. I’ll try to provide more information soon but I don’t want to spoil the game for myself so I’m a little bit wary of delving into BbN too deeply. One thing I can say is I was expecting a lot of Hecata in the book but didn’t find much at first glance

[Banu_Saulot]

Man, I remember that Giovanni Chronicles part 4 ended in Boston, with some real mafia shaenanigans going on. There were some important elements there (besides the Children of Isaac), and I hope that was at least acknowledged in the book. But who knows, I'm not really updated in the Swansong setting, so it is not impossible for me that there is some reference.

Besides that, I just think it will be a very good book and more V5.

[Random Goblin]

Just to manage your expectations: this book won't be providing Loresheets unconnected from the subject matter, being the Boston presented in Swansong. I did write a lot of content for this book, but it's been very streamlined to act as a companion to the video game coming out tomorrow.

Understood!

Won't get any argument from me! It's why I wrote a homebrew book on the Sabbat, at least in part. Likewise my most played PC is my Lasombra Alastor who's a former shovelhead (long story).

I reckon however, that if we're to see Salubri Bloodline loresheets, it will tie to The Seven or those of the Ashirra.

Shovelhead would make a great Loresheet!

[The Gentleman Gamer]

Just to manage your expectations: this book won't be providing Loresheets unconnected from the subject matter, being the Boston presented in Swansong. I did write a lot of content for this book, but it's been very streamlined to act as a companion to the video game coming out tomorrow.

[Karos]

I keep saying this but I think it's the biggest thing missing from V5. Without even arguing about whether the Sabbat should be playable, there are now canonically tons of ex-Sabbat Kindred floating around the different sects. Their histories and lineages weren't erased. There should be tons of Sabbat-related Loresheets to reflect that.

Won't get any argument from me! It's why I wrote a homebrew book on the Sabbat, at least in part. Likewise my most played PC is my Lasombra Alastor who's a former shovelhead (long story).

I reckon however, that if we're to see Salubri Bloodline loresheets, it will tie to The Seven or those of the Ashirra.

[Random Goblin]

Strikes me like something we would've seen in the Sabbat book had there been player content for it.

I keep saying this but I think it's the biggest thing missing from V5. Without even arguing about whether the Sabbat should be playable, there are now canonically tons of ex-Sabbat Kindred floating around the different sects. Their histories and lineages weren't erased. There should be tons of Sabbat-related Loresheets to reflect that.

[Karos]

I would love to see a descendants of Adonai loresheet for the Salubri...

Strikes me like something we would've seen in the Sabbat book had there been player content for it.

[Random Goblin]

Mostly the latter, since they lack content exclusive to them unlike other clans.

I would be glad to see a descendants of Keminitri or Damballah for the Setites, Al Ashrad or Mancheaka for Banu Haqim, Dracon (although I lean towards Kartarirya) for Tzimisce, and Ravana or Hazimel for the Ravnos.

Although Salubri might not be possible, it would be cool to see Descendants Of the Wu Zao twins.

I would love to see a descendants of Adonai loresheet for the Salubri...