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  • Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post
    I say that Odense write-up finally 'get me' with Contagion. It seems much more 'we connect setting to history of area' than Edinburgh's 'here's three different Contagions - do something about it ST'.
    Fun fact about the Edinburgh setting; Knud gets name dropped as the sire for our original Blightfang. It evolved into that new form, which is nice to see. The Contagion changes, adapts...


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    • So I have a query I was hoping some of you guys could weigh in on.

      So in the Odense preview the Contagion is described as manifesting in "Mortals" as the Hallowed condition, but then goes on to say in the story hooks section that Mages, most prominently, but also Prometheans and Mummy's can be effected by it as well, which is confusing as certainly the latter is the opposite of "mortal", but there's no reference to the contagion producing a different effect in anything but Vampires.

      Additionally the Edinburgh preview confuses things further by saying the Grey doesn't effect supernatural creatures in the same way as "Mortals", suggesting anything supernatural is not considered a "mortal" which is contradictory to what I just pointed out in the Odense preview.

      So is this just a case of my misreading or does anyone else agree that defining the contagions victims by the "Mortal" tag is a potentially confusing issue?

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      • If considering these settings as rules to play by then certainly it is confusing. But as ideas and inspiration, it shows that different contagions can have different targets.

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        • I'd expect any remaining inconsistencies to get picked up during the editing and development stages and cleared up there.


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          • The Contagion manifests in different ways in different settings. In some places it only hits mortals, in others it only hits werewolves, etc.


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            • Originally posted by The Gentleman Gamer View Post
              The Contagion manifests in different ways in different settings. In some places it only hits mortals, in others it only hits werewolves, etc.
              Would it be possible to clarify if in Odense the Contagion hits just non-supernatural mortals with the Hollowing Condition or if it effects all non-vampires with it?

              For me it's more that what beings are defined as "Mortals" seems to have changed between the two settings that's a confusing issue rather than the fact that the Contagion can effect different beings (which I do really like.)

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              • Originally posted by Kargle18446 View Post

                Would it be possible to clarify if in Odense the Contagion hits just non-supernatural mortals with the Hollowing Condition or if it effects all non-vampires with it?

                For me it's more that what beings are defined as "Mortals" seems to have changed between the two settings that's a confusing issue rather than the fact that the Contagion can effect different beings (which I do really like.)

                In Odense it's hit mortals more than anyone else because they have contact with the infected relics. However, it can transmit to other creatures too. I'll ensure it's clear in the finished text. The Hollowed Condition does not discriminate in its targets.


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                • Can beast or changelig be hit by Hollowed, like depression symptoms? They are mentioned as most affected by Contagion - and their race specifics made them most connected to mortal population at large.


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                  • Originally posted by The Gentleman Gamer View Post


                    In Odense it's hit mortals more than anyone else because they have contact with the infected relics. However, it can transmit to other creatures too. I'll ensure it's clear in the finished text. The Hollowed Condition does not discriminate in its targets.
                    Thank you, that's great to know. Makes investigating that Contagion a whole lot more sinister when your at risk of contracting it as well.

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                    • Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post
                      Can beast or changelig be hit by Hollowed, like depression symptoms? They are mentioned as most affected by Contagion - and their race specifics made them most connected to mortal population at large.

                      They can indeed.


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                      • Vector preview.

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                        • Thank you The Gentleman Gamer !

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                          • Originally posted by Evil Midnight Lurker View Post
                            Okay, that seems reasonable, I can wrap my head around it now. Thanks!
                            I'm still not really convinced. While never a particularly popular saint, King Knud is considered a saint in Roman Catholicism and is the patron saint of Denmark. Dying at the altar is actually a very good way to get yourself canonized in late Medieval Christianity. I'm personally not the biggest fan of taking a canonized saint (however controversial) of a living religion and making him the big bad, so I personally would probably swap things around if I ever ran Odense. Perhaps everyone thinks Knud is the cause but it's actual his betrayer (who became a vampire in a similar way to Longinus becoming a vampire because he pierced the side of Christ, e.g. it makes sense as a curse and everyone *thinking* it's Knud running around provides a nice red herring.

                            I'm still a little puzzled as to why the God-Machine even cares about transitioning Denmark from Norse Paganism to Catholicism. Does anyone have any ideas?

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                            • because the spirts that feed off the Norse gods worship where getting ro powerful and upity

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                              • I mean that's kinda the God-Machines whole thing, who knows why it needs something to happen, it just does.

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