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  • And after Deviants? What game archetypes are missing?

    Particularly I would like to see Changing Breeds as full line as it has not had a review yet.

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    Hi! I'm real sorry to say,there's already s thread about it :/

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ben Linus View Post
      Particularly I would like to see Changing Breeds as full line as it has not had a review yet.
      well only if it’s nothing like its 1e book. I’d be more interested in the more diverse horror-oriented figures ala War Against the Pure as opposed to a furry-friendly catchall.

      it’s hard to generalized about missing archetypes because you can generally fit a lot of things under the broader blankets. You could make a whole game focused on serpent-people lore, but that doesn’t mean Naga can’t be done with Changeling, for example. Same for Jinn. Same for any given Yokai. Etc.
      Last edited by glamourweaver; 11-01-2019, 10:06 PM.


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      • #4
        As of the last monday meeting notes, there’s 90ish products they’re working on. Most 2e gamelines aren’t getting a supplement per year. We really, really don’t need more gamelines, IMHO.


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        • #5
          Aliens, robots, angels, sentient houses, body snatchers and cursed dolls come to mind. I vote for House the Mortgaging as it is a clever play on the original meaning of mortgage (death pledge referring to the commitment that the loan will be killed be repaying it).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by atamajakki View Post
            As of the last monday meeting notes, there’s 90ish products they’re working on. Most 2e gamelines aren’t getting a supplement per year. We really, really don’t need more gamelines, IMHO.
            I agree. supplements are needed pretty badly

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Live Bait View Post
              Aliens, robots, angels, sentient houses, body snatchers and cursed dolls come to mind.
              Which we already can make with Promethean and Deviant... We need more supplements, not gamelines.
              Last edited by wyrdhamster; 11-03-2019, 02:37 AM.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post

                Which we already can make with Promethean and Deviant... We need more supplements, not gamelines.
                Well. I don't know about aliens...

                Which yeah, the only one that really comes to mind is aliens but...eh?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post

                  Which we already can make with Promethean and Deviant... We need more supplements, not gamelines.

                  We don't even have storytellers guide for not only mage but Werewolf, Promethean and Beast only now we've finally got a release for a night horror book for Werewolf this year... and Werewolf was pretty much released in April 2015. We seriously need more supplements for all the other game lines or at the very least a storyteller guide
                  Last edited by reaperfrost8; 11-03-2019, 02:13 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tasti man LH View Post
                    Well. I don't know about aliens...

                    Which yeah, the only one that really comes to mind is aliens but...eh?
                    Do not have whole gameline idea for aliens - but you can make enough of them with:
                    • Changeling - True Fae as aliens abductors, changelings and hobgoblins as various aliens
                    • Beast - Inguma Family has literal 'alien in human skin' as it's main idea - they have Doppelganger powers for Body Snatchers scenarios, even.
                    • Deviant - something stole you and change you to be truly out of it's world...
                    Beside making gameline like 'We have 4-5 races of aliens on Earth, having various physiologis' - I do not see the any place for aliens game. We can have CoD main line black supplement pointing to games I written - 'You can use ths mechanics for those aliens, that's for those' - but that's it.

                    Changing Breeds can also be big simple black CoD supplement or two, based on Werewolf mechanics, plainly using it's rulebook.

                    We do not need gamelines - we need supplements for games.
                    Last edited by wyrdhamster; 11-03-2019, 02:49 AM.


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                    • #11
                      Aren't alien Deviants part of an upcoming supplement?

                      (While Beast is open for basically any monster designs, you're not actually playing those monsters. You're playing nightmare creatures representing those monsters. That's very different in terms of themes and aesthetics. Your horror might be an alien but neither it nor you have ever been to space and aren't part of an extraterrestrial species.)


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tessie View Post
                        (While Beast is open for basically any monster designs, you're not actually playing those monsters. You're playing nightmare creatures representing those monsters. That's very different in terms of themes and aesthetics. Your horror might be an alien but neither it nor you have ever been to space and aren't part of an extraterrestrial species.)
                        Beasts maybe themselves less so - but Insitables are 'literal Horrors-Made-Flesh from depths of Space/Oceans/Ice/etc.' ALIENS!


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tessie View Post
                          Aren't alien Deviants part of an upcoming supplement?
                          Yes. The Clades Companion will have a Form for extraterrestrials. Granted, it's geared more toward exiled, marooned, or infiltrator aliens, so it will do E.T., but not War of the Worlds, much less Star Trek.


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post

                            Do not have whole gameline idea for aliens -
                            I mean, what do you angels and demons are?


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                            • #15
                              There are aliens in Dark Eras Companion.

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