Short version: It's your id-shadow, and that your id-shadow blankets the countryside and so acts as all's shadows does not divorce it from the fact.
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Originally posted by Demigod Beast View PostCan a Beast use Primordial Pathways to follow a mummy who’s heading to Duat after a Descent?
The Oneiros contains powerful memories like the dreams that form Chambers, and the Dreaming Roads are protean enough to justify being where attempts to access the Hedge through Primordial Pathways end up, but Duat isn't visited by anyone whose psyche participates in the Bright or Primordial Dreams.
It's a timeless Hell whose residents use images of themselves to breach containment. Plot devices might allow it, but there's multiple layers of justification you'd have to go through to get there and then you wouldn't be able to get out, since you're not rolling for anything there, including attempts to open a Primordial Pathway back home.
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Originally posted by Demigod Beast View PostWell, then....if a Beast accompanies an archmaster into a Lustrum, could the Beast form a Chamber either in the mage’s Golden Path or in the Lustrum?
A Chantry would be a different story, because a Chantry is a proper world to some degree (being formed from a seed location not entirely unlike how Chambers are), but "a shining pathway of Pneuma stretching through a darkened landscape that flickers with emotional color and flashes with spellcasting" doesn't give much space for things to happen on compared to the worlds it provides access to.
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Originally posted by Demigod Beast View PostWhat is the “reach” of an Apex? A city? A region? How do I define where one Apex’s dominion in the Primordial Dream ends and another Apex’s begins?
Since hives are made from Chambers and Chambers come from the Bright Dream by way of people, it's going to be a fuzzier boundary than you might get in a game that didn't have "no neat little boxes" as a running theme.
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Is it possible to create and play new, nonmythological beasts of our own imagination? I've always been intrigued with the idea of Changeling the Lost's myriad Kiths and Deviant the Renegade's all-you-can-eat buffet of supernatural creatures. I keep thinking that it should be the same with Beast, but I can't help but feel that it's mostly limited to mythology-only creatures. I'm intrigued by the setting of Beast, though.
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Originally posted by Omichli View PostIs it possible to create and play new, nonmythological beasts of our own imagination? I've always been intrigued with the idea of Changeling the Lost's myriad Kiths and Deviant the Renegade's all-you-can-eat buffet of supernatural creatures. I keep thinking that it should be the same with Beast, but I can't help but feel that it's mostly limited to mythology-only creatures. I'm intrigued by the setting of Beast, though.
A Beast is the human point of contact for a being that is equal parts local cryptid and manifest communal anxiety; the Horror takes its shape from the bits of human culture that have been springing up around traumatic contact with the supernatural and the baneful elements of the world itself. Sometimes that's a dragon, sometimes it's a gremlin, sometimes it's a weird nest of eyes and mouths, sometimes it's a big crocodile that catches you when you're drunk, thrashes you into mist, and inhales you. A well-established Doylist audience isn't a precondition for a Horror's form, and lord knows there's been some weird stuff in folklore and mythology before.
tl;dr: Nope, go nuts if you've got something you think you can spin into an interesting story.
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Originally posted by Primordial newcomer View Post"Tyrannical gods, the world itself a Lie? Distant Cousin, do not deny all that is dark as some external force of evil. It is as natural as the light. And the limits you overcome every day mean nothing without it"- a Beast to a mage
So, to kickstart said thinking-uh, yeah, how do y'all think the Begotten interact with this view of reality?
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Originally posted by ArcaneArts View PostSo, to kickstart said thinking-uh, yeah, how do y'all think the Begotten interact with this view of reality?
To whomever reads this, I hope you have a good day/night. May you be Happy.
So, I made some Mage Legacies here, with some help. They vary in quality, but I hope you take a look at them. Every one contains pieces of me, for better or worse.
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Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
So it's weird for me to be asking this, because I'm me, but somehow, despite having a notion that Beasts might get caught up in Awakenings and wanting to explore that, and otherwise knowing that, for as invisible the Invisible Tyrants are, Exarchial influence and effect do have ready presence in the world that a Beast can nominally come across and know about, I actually haven't considered how they would actually approach the idea of the Lie and the Exarchs-and I'm at work, so I can't do any deep dive thinking on it until later today.
So, to kickstart said thinking-uh, yeah, how do y'all think the Begotten interact with this view of reality?
I actually only came up with it in the spot, but I've always felt Beasts beliefs on it would range from "the exarchs represent harsh Truths, much like us.", to "the Lie is not a good thing...if you're human" to "disgustingly similar to the breach of agency heroes represent, except in a scale even we can't imagine"
One very real possibility I see, is that Beasts come to their understanding of mages through the Astral Aeons alongside interacting with mages. I think one reaction possible is that Beasts see the Arcana as a natural aspect of humanity and its place in the collective consciousness, and may see exarchal influence as an artifical stamping out of true enlightenment and self determinations Beasts may see themselves as representative of.
EDIT: oh and of course, the viewpoint of the beast in the quote, that exarchal influence is really a natural consequence of human behavior (as they are invested in the Fallen, and the way ministries spread exarchal influence is ultimately with methods reflective of humanity as a whole, and thus reflected in the Astral and Primordial dream). That said, I am assuming this view with beast poijt of view bias AND lack of understanding as mages doLast edited by Primordial newcomer; 11-10-2022, 09:56 PM.
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