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    Hi a few questions have popped up if I got a few rules correct, and also one rule that I didn't find at all (despite it being mentioned to be possible a few times in the text)
    Maybe someone can help me there tnx.

    On the mend
    Am I getting this corect, that nothing stops a demon from using this power every turn
    (thus completely healing oneself time and again or others)

    Reducing primum
    It is stated a few times that demons can loose primum.
    As I didn't see any rules there for that.....can a demon choose to decrase his primum? Or is that something that can
    happen in another way?

    Lying
    I'm not 100% if I get it correctly.
    If a demon is trying to tell a police officer that he wasn't at the site of the happening at all (although he was there).
    Am I getting it correctly here that he rolls subterfuge there as every other char with two points being true here:
    a.) he can still become entangled in contradictions and thus the roll is necessary
    b.) regardless what he rolls he comes over as sincere


    Regaining Aether and demonic forms
    Is this also working if you don't take on the a full form but instead a partial form?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Ryu View Post
    Hi a few questions have popped up if I got a few rules correct, and also one rule that I didn't find at all (despite it being mentioned to be possible a few times in the text)
    Maybe someone can help me there tnx.

    On the mend
    Am I getting this corect, that nothing stops a demon from using this power every turn
    (thus completely healing oneself time and again or others)
    Yes. Failed rolls carry penalties, of course, but if your dice pool is good you can keep going until you're healed. If the GM is feeling malicious they could ask for compromise rolls if you start overusing Embeds.

    Originally posted by Ryu View Post
    Reducing primum
    It is stated a few times that demons can loose primum.
    As I didn't see any rules there for that.....can a demon choose to decrase his primum? Or is that something that can
    happen in another way?
    Oh, good point. Um. I'll have to look into that one a little more.

    Originally posted by Ryu View Post
    Lying
    I'm not 100% if I get it correctly.
    If a demon is trying to tell a police officer that he wasn't at the site of the happening at all (although he was there).
    Am I getting it correctly here that he rolls subterfuge there as every other char with two points being true here:
    a.) he can still become entangled in contradictions and thus the roll is necessary
    b.) regardless what he rolls he comes over as sincere
    He'll come across as sincere no matter what, and if I'm running the game, he doesn't need to bother rolling. Now, that he sounds complete convincing does not prevent the cop from disbelieving him (remember, a demon can lie perfectly, but that doesn't change the facts of the matter), and cops are naturally suspicious to begin with. If he rolls, he can't fail.

    Originally posted by Ryu View Post
    Regaining Aether and demonic forms
    Is this also working if you don't take on the a full form but instead a partial form?
    Nope, just full demonic form.

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    • #3
      Thanks for the clarifications there.

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      • #4
        Just got an additional question:
        Demonic form: Rivet Arm
        What is the range of the gun?

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        • #5
          Same as a shotgun, I think.

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          • #6
            thank you again

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            • #7
              Claws and Fangs demonic form power
              What skill do they use weaponry or brawl? In the past it was brawl but as they count as weapons I'm not so sure if it isn't changed now to weaponry?

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              • #8
                Brawl. Brawly-brawl, brawl, brawl.

                (Have to use at least 10 characters.)

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                • #9
                  yep that limit is a nuisance sometimes. tnx.

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                  • #10
                    Just a check, since I'm fairly sure of the correct answer - Murder by Improbability's targetting restrictions. Does it just require you to unambiguously identify a single person? My feeling is that it requires you to know their identity (this is kinda wooly, but "the US president" would work, a named person would work, but "the landlord of this apartment" or "the person who broke into my house last week" wouldn't due to not actually knowing who they are); there definitely doesn't seem to be a range or line of sight thing on it.

                    I realise the answer is probably going to be "whatever feels like it should work" or words to that effect; just checking I'm in the right kinda ballpark.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by blackhatmatt View Post

                      Yes. Failed rolls carry penalties, of course, but if your dice pool is good you can keep going until you're healed. If the GM is feeling malicious they could ask for compromise rolls if you start overusing Embeds.



                      Oh, good point. Um. I'll have to look into that one a little more.



                      He'll come across as sincere no matter what, and if I'm running the game, he doesn't need to bother rolling. Now, that he sounds complete convincing does not prevent the cop from disbelieving him (remember, a demon can lie perfectly, but that doesn't change the facts of the matter), and cops are naturally suspicious to begin with. If he rolls, he can't fail.



                      Nope, just full demonic form.
                      I just read that on page 373 in the core rules (dtd) it is mentioned, that long term exposure to facilities can cost a demon dots of primum.
                      (no actual rules for there though but at least one case where it is possible to loose primum). Is anything planed to include further possibilities to loose primum (or maybe rules for that) sometime later on? (as currently we have rules what happens when a demon looses primum and if I remember correctly even a case where it is one of the possibilities how a demon comes out of a bad situation [I think a condition or a dramatic failure if I remember correctly], but only 1 situation/case so far (that I'm aware of now) where a demon could loose primum (and that situation comes up very rarely if I get correct, as in how long demons normally are in facilities).

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