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  • Do mages police monetary transactions?

    In cannon, would there be a group that would try to stop me to go back in time to buy 100k of bitcoins?

  • #2
    I don’t know the answer to this, but If you are powerful enough to go back that far without devastating consequences, that seems like a silly way to spend your time, no pun intended.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Amravanti View Post
      I don’t know the answer to this, but If you are powerful enough to go back that far without devastating consequences, that seems like a silly way to spend your time, no pun intended.
      Besides, the Seers serving Mammon will just undercut its value by banning its use.


      Malkydel: "And the Machine dictated; let there be adequate illumination."
      Yossarian: "And lo, it was optimal."

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      • #4
        Probably not unless you did something that was damaging to history along the way in which case you'd probably get a visit from Seers or Guardians (Or other offended parties) that have Shielded themselves from temporal tampering.

        History in this case is very specific to the people that might be annoyed with you for whatever reason, not in the broad butterfly effect sense.

        So in essence, if you fucked up someone else's plans as a result of your tinkering, you might gain an enemy, but if you didn't then you probably won't.

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        • #5
          It's kinda frightening to think of all the stuff you'd witness getting retroactively changed with Time Shielding.

          Well, if it weren't for the fact that most Magely Time travelers (who'll actually do something to the "present" with their powers) are Masters, and far more than likely to smash your Clash of Wills pool into tiny little pieces with their casting/alterations.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ale137 View Post
            In cannon, would there be a group that would try to stop me to go back in time to buy 100k of bitcoins?
            They're not mages, but the Lodge of the Clocktower and the Tindalosi hunt prey that meddle with the natural order of time. Also definitely seems like something angels would jump on.

            It really doesn't seem like something a mage group would be concerned with, beyond the attention totally-not-a-wizard would get for suddenly becoming rich and the comparatively petty use of magic. You might have a group of Banishers or Legacy that are more focused on it but they probably wouldn't be widespread. Some individual mages might think it was seedy, but that's probably nothing out of the ordinary.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by nofather View Post
              beyond the attention totally-not-a-wizard would get for suddenly becoming rich and the comparatively petty use of magic.
              The retroactivity of time edits means there’s nothing sudden about it.

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              • #8
                I can imagine many factions who would be very interested in monitoring such things. I think a big majority of newly Awakened mages who haven't been introduced to the awakened society will use their magic for monetary gain, so it is a way to find new mages.

                Also, if someone makes big transactions it means something big is about to happen which is good to at least glance at.

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                • #9
                  Considering how many other ways a mage could gain money unless you change something else that another group cares about then i dont think anybody would come after you. You'd have to step on some other groups toes for them to seriously come after you.

                  And if the goal is to make money, why not just go back and buy a winning lottery ticket?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by totalgit View Post
                    Considering how many other ways a mage could gain money unless you change something else that another group cares about then i dont think anybody would come after you. You'd have to step on some other groups toes for them to seriously come after you.

                    And if the goal is to make money, why not just go back and buy a winning lottery ticket?
                    Lottos are too high profile.


                    Malkydel: "And the Machine dictated; let there be adequate illumination."
                    Yossarian: "And lo, it was optimal."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Vent0 View Post
                      Lottos are too high profile.
                      Can we please not talk about this again?

                      The profile of it doesn’t matter because it’s just an ST decision of what level of consequences there should e for doing it, you could do it though
                      Last edited by Mrmdubois; 01-24-2018, 09:57 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mrmdubois View Post

                        Can we please not talk about this again?

                        The profile of it doesn’t matter because it’s just an ST decision of what level of consequences there should e for doing it, you could do it though
                        Was there a big argument about this topic?

                        I just meant neighbors knocking on your door, telemarketers harassing you, etc. Nothing CofD specific.


                        Malkydel: "And the Machine dictated; let there be adequate illumination."
                        Yossarian: "And lo, it was optimal."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Vent0 View Post
                          Was there a big argument about this topic?

                          I just meant neighbors knocking on your door, telemarketers harassing you, etc. Nothing CofD specific.
                          Yes, kicked off by almost exactly the same original question, and again any consequences of winning the lottery is entirely up to ST fiat.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ale137 View Post
                            In cannon, would there be a group that would try to stop me to go back in time to buy 100k of bitcoins?
                            Likely that no one would have to stop you, because that kind of purchase early on is going to drastically alter the way the currency developed.

                            To answer the deeper question, that depends entirely on how the ST wants to run his game. I have been, and always will be, of the opinion that Mages have more important shit to do.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ale137 View Post
                              In cannon, would there be a group that would try to stop me to go back in time to buy 100k of bitcoins?
                              If you have that kind of Time, you probably have enough Fate to easily just guess the winning powerball lottery ticket. Of course that exposes you to public scrutiny which might mean Seers on your butt. Or might mean nothing.

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