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[Cauthon]

Lol, Edgelords.

I used the word "Shadow" so many times when drafting this that it's lost all meaning. Felt like a good fit!

Looks good! I see you went with not having extra thought tracks for OM,TT.

Thanks! Yeah, not quite comfortable with it. If I were to use it, I could just switch the Reach from Instant Casting over to multiple tracks as a Reach effect, or to switching Potency to Primary if multitracks are the default.

Plus, Telepathy as the Master rank and golems with minds acheive much the same end - extra bodies you can gain teamwork bonuses with, or tag-team in a fight.

On a edgy note, I think turning someone’s teeth into a a true weapon is well within a legacies intital attainment, even if it wasn’t a Death legacy.
I think transferring damage to another is Death Weaving. As long as you tie it to the bite, it’s probably fine to have it just heal damage at Attainment 3. It could also work with Attainment 4. Is there any particular reason to go with Space for the Vampire legacy? I don’t think the Attainments are bad, far from it, but I don’t inherently see the connection?

Honestly, Space was mostly for some of the more iconic Draclua powers - scuttling down castle walls like a spider, blipping through cracks, the like. I have a Life Optional track draft from an early iteration too; that one uses stuff like Web of Life to detect prey, Purge Illness to compensate for the constant blood-drinking, and Shapechange for turning into bats or wolves. Mind would also be an acceptable track, playing into the seduction and domination route.

[TempleBuilder]

I used the word "Shadow" so many times when drafting this that it's lost all meaning. Felt like a good fit!

Thanks! Yeah, not quite comfortable with it. If I were to use it, I could just switch the Reach from Instant Casting over to multiple tracks as a Reach effect, or to switching Potency to Primary if multitracks are the default.

Plus, Telepathy as the Master rank and golems with minds acheive much the same end - extra bodies you can gain teamwork bonuses with, or tag-team in a fight.


Honestly, Space was mostly for some of the more iconic Draclua powers - scuttling down castle walls like a spider, blipping through cracks, the like. I have a Life Optional track draft from an early iteration too; that one uses stuff like Web of Life to detect prey, Purge Illness to compensate for the constant blood-drinking, and Shapechange for turning into bats or wolves. Mind would also be an acceptable track, playing into the seduction and domination route.

Well, they work. I was going to recommend a “darkvision” spell, but I realized you already had that covered, and everything else already fit.

Hmm. I think you can use Death for a lot of thoses effects. Web of Life, would be a Death knowing for those with the potential to die, Purge Illness can be replicated with like Death Shielding (I think). I’ve got nothing for Shapechange, outside of literally changing your shape with Space. Death can be used Socially, but it’s more about intimidation than seduction, so I don’t know there. I think a good legacy member might just have to level Mind for the true movie vampire experience.

You can probably use the “boons” mentioned in attainment 2 for healing from sickness, or just give immunity to blood born illnesses at attainment 1. I think it fits the legacy enough where it’s fine to just appear in the attainments

[Cauthon]

Well, they work. I was going to recommend a “darkvision” spell, but I realized you already had that covered, and everything else already fit.

Hmm. I think you can use Death for a lot of thoses effects. Web of Life, would be a Death knowing for those with the potential to die, Purge Illness can be replicated with like Death Shielding (I think). I’ve got nothing for Shapechange, outside of literally changing your shape with Space. Death can be used Socially, but it’s more about intimidation than seduction, so I don’t know there. I think a good legacy member might just have to level Mind for the true movie vampire experience.

You can probably use the “boons” mentioned in attainment 2 for healing from sickness, or just give immunity to blood born illnesses at attainment 1. I think it fits the legacy enough where it’s fine to just appear in the attainments

The problem with transfering those effects over to Death is that it costs you on the primary track. I'm quite fond of the Sacrificial Relinquishment and Devour the Slain Attainments especially, they feel very on-brand. Plus, it amuses me to no end that it's easier -magically speaking- to offload relinquishment than it is to drain Mana from someone.

Life makes for an appropriate balance against Death in creating an undead-aping Legacy. Mind works into the romanticised view of vampires. Space... yeah, I mostly wanted it for a few of the powers, rather than the symbolism. Are any of the other Arcana appropriate?

[TempleBuilder]

The problem with transfering those effects over to Death is that it costs you on the primary track. I'm quite fond of the Reaping Relinquishment and Devour the Slain Attainments especially, they feel very on-brand. Plus, it amuses me to no end that it's easier -magically speaking- to offload relinquishment than it is to drain Mana from someone.

Fair enough. Yeah, Mage is weird like that sometimes with it’s power placement.

Life makes for an appropriate balance against Death in creating an undead-aping Legacy. Mind works into the romanticised view of vampires. Space... yeah, I mostly wanted it for a few of the powers, rather than the symbolism. Are any of the other Arcana appropriate?

…A few bit here and there. Nightvision in Forces, unageing or youth stealing in Time, but I think you have it squared away. My comment was mostly expressing my surprise at you not using Life, since that’s the route most would go. I guess you could replicate turning into a mist by turning your body into ectoplasm, with a Life/Death attainment, and do blunt force emotional control with just Life, so you might not need Mind at all for a Life track. Can’t walk on walls though.

On a different note, I think some Libertines might be interested in your sharpshooter legacy. At least where I live, there is a strong association with the right to bear arms, and freedom. One can argue for or against that sort of thinking, but I feel it’s worth noting it does exist and is generally in the Council’s sphere.

As for the Attainments, they look good, I’m enjoying the thought of a full auto burst of bullets of “draw lightning bolt here” during a thunderstorm. Could have Zoom In as a Attainment, but I’m not sure where one would put it in. You could also replicate a Forces version of Heightened Senses for your eyes and ears I think.

[Cauthon]

My comment was mostly expressing my surprise at you not using Life, since that’s the route most would go.

Oh, I wasn't trying to be defensive or anything, just curious if I'd overlooked any other combos to experiment with before settling on something. Your suggestions are good!

I guess you could replicate turning into a mist by turning your body into ectoplasm, with a Life/Death attainment,

Shadow Flesh can get a lot of the same milage, but needs the Adept or Master slots. Wholesale reweaving is a... Patterning effect, right? So it will always have to be the Adept slot at a minimum.

Do blunt force emotional control with just Life, so you might not need Mind at all for a Life track.

True, although Control Instincts as an Apprentice spell will be tricky to slot. You definately want Advanced Duration, and Instant Casting. You could live without Sight range and "Affect the Supernatural", although that will limit the utility...

Can’t walk on walls though.

You could use Transform Life to scuttle like a spider or a gecko, like the original Dracula novel. Although that's a bit different from the Escher-painting walk-on-walls I really want to work into a Legacy.

On a different note, I think some Libertines might be interested in your sharpshooter legacy. At least where I live, there is a strong association with the right to bear arms, and freedom. One can argue for or against that sort of thinking, but I feel it’s worth noting it does exist and is generally in the Council’s sphere.

As for the Attainments, they look good, I’m enjoying the thought of a full auto burst of bullets of “draw lightning bolt here” during a thunderstorm. Could have Zoom In as a Attainment, but I’m not sure where one would put it in. You could also replicate a Forces version of Heightened Senses for your eyes and ears I think.

Well, Legacies should generaly ape archetypes, I suppose. Libertine "Gunslingers" would probably make sense.

You could put Zoom In in place of Control Sound - most of the original design hinges on them having been a Praetorian Legacy of assassins that slowly fell into being Banishers, and now keeps being "spontaniously" developed in the wild. Control Sound is important for avoiding detect, but Zoom In has just as much utility.

[TempleBuilder]

You could put Zoom In in place of Control Sound - most of the original design hinges on them having been a Praetorian Legacy of assassins that slowly fell into being Banishers, and now keeps being "spontaniously" developed in the wild. Control Sound is important for avoiding detect, but Zoom In has just as much utility.

I just feel like they would be the type to use a silencer, perhaps a enhanced one. I suppose Control Sound could be used for their own movements too.

[KaiserAfini]

I think it the idea of delivering custom prepared magical bullets is incredibly flexible, always allowing them to prepare the right tool for the kill.

I think rather than Craftsman's Eye, perhaps Wonderful Machine would serve them better, allowing them to have different firing property toggles. Sometimes they need autofire to deal with an incoming firefight, other times they need to snipe the target. They may need to stake them or even nuke the area with missiles or box enemies in with a flamethrower or flare gun.

This way they can have make Judge Dredd's signature Lawgiver. They only need their signature gun and they customize it to create the perfect suite for their target.

I think Endless Bounty could be used in more than bullets. If they need to stay on the trail of a dangerous target for the perfect shot, they never run out of water or rations. Need to buy equipment for an ambush or new parts to customize the gun ? They have the money. Need to deal with a huge amount of vampires ? They have an advantage setting up a trap, since they never run out of dynamite or gasoline.

[Cauthon]

I just feel like they would be the type to use a silencer, perhaps a enhanced one. I suppose Control Sound could be used for their own movements too.

Mmh. I get the warm-and-fuzzies from Attainments that either build directly off one-another (Most of the Shadow-Wright "Wayang" Attainments) or augment each other in some way (Shadow-Wright's Kungkum Mind Attainment). Control Sound as a further enhancement to their ritual maintenance was an extension of that, but switching it out for a general utility power isn't bad.

I think it the idea of delivering custom prepared magical bullets is incredibly flexible, always allowing them to prepare the right tool for the kill.

I think rather than Craftsman's Eye, perhaps Wonderful Machine would serve them better, allowing them to have different firing property toggles. Sometimes they need autofire to deal with an incoming firefight, other times they need to snipe the target. They may need to stake them or even nuke the area with missiles or box enemies in with a flamethrower or flare gun.

Works pretty well, builds off the ritual maintenance by "reassembling" it with additional parts. Advanced Duration via Reach is probably the best choice, although Permenance is an option...

I think Endless Bounty could be used in more than bullets. If they need to stay on the trail of a dangerous target for the perfect shot, they never run out of water or rations. Need to buy equipment for an ambush or new parts to customize the gun ? They have the money. Need to deal with a huge amount of vampires ? They have an advantage setting up a trap, since they never run out of dynamite or gasoline.

That seems to slide a bit father from "Sharpshooter" and more into "Hunter". Pretty much all the other Attainments are ways to enhance the use of the weapon, rather than enhance their skill at hunting. "Ammunition" is broad enough that you could justify gasoline (Flamethrowers), and you could probably make a fortune on replicating silver bullets and arrows for melting down, but outright money seems like a departure. Repair parts make sense though; Endless Bounty applying to weaponry could encompass both spare parts and ammunition.

[TempleBuilder]

Oh! The Superstars are neat. I think the secondary should probably relate to what the Mage is getting out of all that attention, you know, besides that attention. I think most would probably go for Life, with becoming the Beautiful they can. If you want though, you can tie into Matter with cosmetics, and clothes.

[Cauthon]

Oh! The Superstars are neat. I think the secondary should probably relate to what the Mage is getting out of all that attention, you know, besides that attention. I think most would probably go for Life, with becoming the Beautiful they can. If you want though, you can tie into Matter with cosmetics, and clothes.

I really want to work Contact High into there. Cling to someone like a movie damsel in distress, and they get wired. Problem is, as always, Reach, but the Duration makes things tricky too. Only affecting those under Obsession makes a good limiting factor to buy you self-immunity without spwnding the Reach, but you really need to switch it to Potency-primary.

[TempleBuilder]

I really want to work Contact High into there. Cling to someone like a movie damsel in distress, and they get wired. Problem is, as always, Reach, but the Duration makes things tricky too. Only affecting those under Obsession makes a good limiting factor to buy you self-immunity without spwnding the Reach, but you really need to switch it to Potency-primary.

Contact High? Oh this legacy’s not leading to anyplace good, for the characters anyways. Hallucinogen touch anyone? So the legacy would probably indulging in many vices, like drugs right? Maybe have it only work if your character is on something? That way you are passing off the effects to someone else, maybe?

[Cauthon]

Contact High? Oh this legacy’s not leading to anyplace good, for the characters anyways.

Oh, unquestionably. Indiscriminate infliction of the Obsessed condition has all kinds of ramifications, and that's their MAIN track.

Hallucinogen touch anyone? So the legacy would probably indulging in many vices, like drugs right? Maybe have it only work if your character is on something? That way you are passing off the effects to someone else, maybe?

Not necessarily; the Hallucinate effect -at least as how I'm planning to apply it- would be semi-involuntary. If it's active, everyone who's under Obsession sees something slightly different. The Superstar can't control how the Obsessed see them, although they could sculpt and guide that idealization through bog-standard social engineering. Needs work yet tho.

Contact High by RAW causes anyone who touched the designated object to be affected by the "drug", but mechanically only gives uppers or downers... Downers would make for good incapacitation ops, but uppers would make for a support role. Alternatively, you could probably give a generous reading to RAW and say that uppers also make the subject more aggressive. Excellent chaos-fodder. Which is honestly what I was aiming for; living apples of Eris. Spreading LSD would be neat though...

Actually... reading the spell-text again, I might be misunderstanding the durational mechanics:
"Anyone whose skin comes into contact with the subject is affected by the drug while the spell remains active."
I was reading that as "anyone who touches the subject during the spell's Duration, is affected by the drug for the remainder of the spell's Duration". But it's meant to be "anyone who touches the subject during the spell's Duration is affected by the drug, which runs it's own natural course", isn't it?

[TempleBuilder]

Contact High by RAW causes anyone who touched the designated object to be affected by the "drug", but mechanically only gives uppers or downers... Downers would make for good incapacitation ops, but uppers would make for a support role. Alternatively, you could probably give a generous reading to RAW and say that uppers also make the subject more aggressive. Excellent chaos-fodder. Which is honestly what I was aiming for; living apples of Eris. Spreading LSD would be neat though...

Between Life and Mind up aggression should be easy. Life can definitely just trigger the hormones, and I think you might even be able to attach it to the obsessed conditions, and have it remain til the duration ends. You can also make people literally addicted to you if you want in push that Obsession even further.

LSD touch is fun, but it’s fitting depends on what kind of chaos you want. Hmm LSD and a forced inability to comprehend symbols might be fun for a mean Prime trick. Not really in the scope of the legacy though.

Actually... reading the spell-text again, I might be misunderstanding the durational mechanics:
"Anyone whose skin comes into contact with the subject is affected by the drug while the spell remains active."
I was reading that as "anyone who touches the subject during the spell's Duration, is affected by the drug for the remainder of the spell's Duration". But it's meant to be "anyone who touches the subject during the spell's Duration is affected by the drug, which runs it's own natural course", isn't it?

It’s probably the second, which is arguably a good thing. But the wording is ambiguous, you can go either way, and I’d doubt people would argue too much.

[Cauthon]

... and have it remain til the duration ends.

Ah... That... would still cause problems. Since Give Me That and Contact High have the same Primary Factors, I'd likely apply the same Reach allocations to them. The Obsessed condition lasts as long as Give Me That does, and since it's Advanced Duration... Even switching Potency to Primary, that's a week. Oof. Imagine being teenage-hormone aggressive for a week, and all that focused towards one person.

I'd almost say make it Touch range instead of Self, to make the Mage into Eris rather than the apple.

[KaiserAfini]

"No, we can't break into the collection of the museum to investigate the Iremite circlet when you have a small mob of adoring fans following you. Do you want the Sentinel to chew us out for nearly tearing the Veil again ? They call him the Nightmare of Nightmares, they say he can make Acamoth run. I believe them, he had this eldritch vibe when he was nearly losing his patience."