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    Hey! Been a bit. Kinda got burnt out for a while after picking up a very intense job with long shifts. Anyways I'm back now, and I making this a place for my new niche legacy ideas.

    Comments, Criticisms and Concerns are welcomed and appreciated.

    WIP Legacies:
    Here

    My Old Legacy Thread:
    2e Legacy Brainstorming

    Legacies On This Thread:
    Nimbus Spinners; Prime/Space artists who creations are only visible to the Awakened.

    Fountainhead of Tofana; Matter/Prime shadowy poisoners and liars

    * This thread is inspired by Cauthon's Homebrew Hub which you can and should checkout. *
    Last edited by TempleBuilder; 12-14-2022, 04:44 PM.


    To whomever reads this, I hope you have a good day/night. May you be Happy.

    So, I made some Mage Legacies here, with some help. They vary in quality, but I hope you take a look at them. Every one contains pieces of me, for better or worse.

  • #2
    Can’t wait to see them!

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    • #3
      Nimbus Spinners
      A legacy of Nimbus Artists

      Nicknames: The Crowned, Coronals, Spinners, Pollyannas (Derogatory)
      Organization: The Spinners are often social, and many maintain regular contact with other Spinners, to discuss techniques, new Nimbus related phenomena or to give and receive criticism. Small groups sometimes form, but many prefer to do their actual work by themselves. A dedicated cabal is unheard of, many instead attach themselves to other cabals.

      Many Spinners are involved in the trade of Magic Services, adding decorations only visible to Mage Sight to Sanctums and examining and advising others on shaping the Nimbus. some even act as detectives, deducing how and why a mysterious Nimbus appears the way it does.
      Theory: The Nimbus is the most Sublime Medium
      Background: The legacy is thought to quite old, but little remains of the original Artworks. The Legacy's modern origins are traced to a Nimbus weaved Banner, containing the combined Nimbuses of a Cabal. Many Members of the Legacy are eccentric, due to the requirements of methods of shaping their own Nimbus. Anyone can join the legacy, as the Initiation is well know to the boarder Awakened community.


      Parentage: Obrimos; Free Council, Silver Ladder
      Ruling Arcanum: Prime
      Yantras: Thematic Nimbus Imprints (+1), Mundane Artist Tools(+1), Imago Modifies or examines the Nimbus (+1), success on an Expression roll relating to the spell (+2)
      Oblations: Detailed Planning of New Art, Examining a New Nimbus, Giving Heartfelt Artistic Criticism

      Prerequisites: Prime 2, Taste (Nimbus Art), Expression 2, Occult Specialty (Nimbus)
      Initiation: Creating your first Nimbus Art, and Scrutinizing it

      Artist’s Eye
      (Prime ●) Initiation
      Working deeply with Nimbuses gives an Spinner insight into what gives the Nimbus it's form.
      Nimbus Tuning
      Potency = Prime
      Duration = N/A (1)
      Scale = All extra factors to Scale
      Range = Touch
      Casting Time = Instant
      COMMENTARY: The artist should know their paints


      (Space ●)
      One Learns quickly that the canvas is almost as Important to Artwork as the Artwork itself
      The Outward and Inward Eye
      Potency = Space
      Duration = Space (Reach to Advanced Duration )
      Range = Touch
      Casting Time = Ritual

      COMMENTARY: Really only the basic Space spell that fits, a Artist needs to see their work from every angle .


      The Work
      (Prime ●●) 3 ● of Nimbus Merits
      The Spinner Makes Nimbus Art out of their own Nimbus
      Supernal Signature
      Duration = Unique (Lasts like a normal Nimbus Impression)
      Potency = Prime
      Scale = All extra factors to Scale
      Range = Touch
      Casting Time = Instant (Reach to Instant Casting)

      NOTE: Creates artwork form the Nimbus. The shape and details of the signature, as long as it related to the themes of the nimbus. For example, one with a Nimbus of an angel protector may make angelic statues, shields, feelings of warmth and safety, or the sensation that one is being watched over, perhaps all at the same time. The artwork can create emotional conditions, much like other kinds of artwork.
      COMMENTARY: The first Artwork. (no, I couldn't think of a better name)

      (Space ●●)
      Locate Object
      Potency = N/A (1)
      Duration = Space
      Scale = All extra factors to Scale
      Range = Unique (Only targeting own Nimbus Art)
      Casting Time = Instant (Reach to Instant Casting)

      COMMENTARY: A Side spell, mainly to make the artwork more useful in and of it's self.


      Chose the Hue
      (Prime ●●●) Expression 4, 5 ● of Nimbus Merits
      The Spinner focuses and works their Nimbus into a new palette.
      Nimbus Forgery/Alter Nimbus
      Duration = Prime (Reach to Advanced Duration )
      Potency = Prime
      Scale = All extra factors to Scale
      Range = Touch
      Casting Time = Ritual
      Extra: (Reach to modify all three Nimbuses)

      COMMENTARY: Customize your nimbus. At this point the Nimbus should be rather powerful, and being able to freely customize it should be fairly potent. When combined with the second attainment, one can make art of anything. This blog might help with examples.

      (Space ●●●)

      Veil Sympathy
      Potency = N/A (1)
      Duration = Space (Reach to Advanced Duration )
      Range = Touch
      Casting Time = Instant (Reach to Instant Casting)
      Extra: (Reach to Prevent use of Sympathy)

      DESCRIPTION: Sometimes an artist do not want to be recognized, adding a bit of mystery to their work.

      COMMENTARY: An Extremely necessary spell. Making the Art less of a problem to spread around where one will. Remember, Imprinted Nimbuses aka how the art pieces work, have medium sympathy to the originator at minimum


      The Most Sublime Aura
      (Prime ●●●●) 8 ● of Nimbus Merits
      Empower Nimbus
      Duration = All extra factors to Duration (Reach to Advanced Duration)
      Potency = Prime
      Range = Touch
      Casting Time = Instant (Reach to Instant Casting)


      COMMENTARY: Kinda basic, I'd rather have the spell give Nimbus merit's, but a Spinner must have plenty of merits by this point, and i don't know if Potent nimbus should break it's cap

      (Space ●●●●)
      Perfect Sympathy
      Duration = Space (Reach to Advanced Duration)
      Potency = N/A (1)
      Range = Self
      Casting Time = Instant (Reach to Instant Casting)
      Extra: (Reach for medium sympathy)
      NOTE: Nimbus Imprinted objects have Medium Sympathy, Nimbus Art may be higher.

      COMMENTARY:

      True Beauty Unveiled
      (Prime ●●●●●) 10 ● of Nimbus Merits
      Display Halo
      Duration = All extra factors to Duration (Reach to Advanced Duration)
      Potency = Prime
      Range = Touch
      Casting Time = Instant (Reach to Instant Casting)
      Extra: (Reach for relative conditions)

      NOTE:
      COMMENTARY:

      (Space ●●●●●)
      Teleportation
      Duration = N/A (1)
      Potency = Space
      Range = Sympathetic ( Nimbus Art Only)
      Casting Time = Instant (Reach to Instant Casting)
      NOTE:

      COMMENTARY:




      Secrets and Storyhooks
      ● A well respected, but ageing Coronal has announced their retirement, along with their plans to more or less permanently move to a pocket dimension of their own creation, leaving their sanctum estate to their apprentice. Their apprentice, however seemingly wants nothing to do with the place, and privately seeks out several up and coming cabals to challenge them to find and return a specific Grimoire to them from inside the estate. Do that, and the Sanctum is theirs. What could possibly motivate the apprentice to give up such a prime location? What's in the Grimoire? How does one even make it past the foyer mobius strip?

      ● The local Spinner has gone rapt. At least that's what everyone assumes, when their Artwork all simultaneously burst open like a over ripe fruit, leaking raw Supernal energy into the nearby surroundings. Worse still, they appear to have been way way more productive than anyone thought, with their Art showing up in large quantities in the absolutely weirdest places. Some even reappear after being destroyed. No one can seem to find the Spinner, and people are starting to get desperate.

      ●[WIP]

      Yes, I'm stealing Cauthon's formating style. No, I'm not ashamed.

      For those wondering "what is this? and why?", the answers are niche Nimbus Artists, and because why not. Really this is just an idea that popped into my head, and I wanted to share it. I find the Nimbus to be very cool, if a bit under utilized.
      Last edited by TempleBuilder; 11-15-2022, 11:05 PM.


      To whomever reads this, I hope you have a good day/night. May you be Happy.

      So, I made some Mage Legacies here, with some help. They vary in quality, but I hope you take a look at them. Every one contains pieces of me, for better or worse.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TempleBuilder View Post
        Yes, I'm stealing Cauthon's formating style. No, I'm not ashamed.
        It's a busy style, but thorough, by gum. Always show your work!
        Last edited by Cauthon; 11-15-2022, 04:53 PM.


        Monkish Asexual.

        I make Legacies when I'm bored. They're of middling quality, but have a look if you're interested. Advice and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

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        • #5
          Nimbus and space based art, an intriguing concept. The image that comes to mind is the game Antichamber. I could see these mages creating Sanctums that not only delight the resident cabal with wonders and puzzles perceivable only through Mage Sight, but also confound any invaders. They accomplish this with clever use of perspective and selective Bans and Keyed effects.


          New experiences are the font of creativity, when seeking inspiration, break your routine.

          The Agathos Kai Sophos, an Acanthus Legacy of strategists (Mind/Time)
          The Szary Strażnik, an Obrimos Legacy whose invisible hands guide through the Glyphs of Fate (Fate/Prime)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KaiserAfini View Post
            Nimbus and space based art, an intriguing concept. The image that comes to mind is the game Antichamber. I could see these mages creating Sanctums that not only delight the resident cabal with wonders and puzzles perceivable only through Mage Sight, but also confound any invaders. They accomplish this with clever use of perspective and selective Bans and Keyed effects.
            I wonder, could you could use Space to create a pocket dimension made entirely out of nimbi?


            Monkish Asexual.

            I make Legacies when I'm bored. They're of middling quality, but have a look if you're interested. Advice and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cauthon View Post
              I wonder, could you could use Space to create a pocket dimension made entirely out of nimbi?
              Eidolon pocket dimension might be a way to do it, building Antichamber or Manifold Garden with careful sculpting.


              New experiences are the font of creativity, when seeking inspiration, break your routine.

              The Agathos Kai Sophos, an Acanthus Legacy of strategists (Mind/Time)
              The Szary Strażnik, an Obrimos Legacy whose invisible hands guide through the Glyphs of Fate (Fate/Prime)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KaiserAfini View Post
                Nimbus and space based art, an intriguing concept. The image that comes to mind is the game Antichamber. I could see these mages creating Sanctums that not only delight the resident cabal with wonders and puzzles perceivable only through Mage Sight, but also confound any invaders. They accomplish this with clever use of perspective and selective Bans and Keyed effects.
                Antichamber? Lets look that...yeah, it's pretty much that. The Spinners aren't directly associated with the Arrow, but the few that wind up there often do extremely well at Sanctum defense. Seriously, these are the kind of people to make brain bending effects for fun. Never mind the fun game of "guess what's safe to examine, and what will give you a -12 spread around your stats and skills as a persistent condition", and spaces infused with spells that make even more conditions appear.

                Edit: I kinda intended for them to be rather unassuming at a first glance, but rather terrifying when one logically thinks out their powers.
                Last edited by TempleBuilder; 11-15-2022, 09:51 PM.


                To whomever reads this, I hope you have a good day/night. May you be Happy.

                So, I made some Mage Legacies here, with some help. They vary in quality, but I hope you take a look at them. Every one contains pieces of me, for better or worse.

                Comment


                • #9
                  WIP Legacies
                  Going to use the spot as a place to flesh out legacy ideas-feel free to comment on ways to make them better

                  Seed-Embracers of mortality that seek to get the most out of the time they have

                  ???
                  Moros
                  Time/Death

                  Initiate(Choose Wisely)
                  Momentary Flux - Instant Casting
                  Know End* - Instant Casting
                  *Leans how a subject is "supposed" to die

                  Apprentice (Waste Not a Second)
                  Green Light/Red Light - Advanced Duration,
                  Soul Marks - Instant Casting, Unattached Souls


                  Disciple (One Life, One Chance!)
                  Perfect Timing - Instant Casting, Advanced Duration, Change Primary Factor to Potency
                  Shadow Crafting - Advanced Duration


                  Adept ()
                  Choose The Thread - Instant Casting, Affects Spellcasting
                  Ghost Gate - Instant Casting, Straight to Twilight

                  Master ()
                  Blink Of an Eye - Instant
                  Empty Presence - Instant Casting


                  Seed-Extremely motivated Ascension seekers, pursuing mysteries less they burn themselves up-Symbols are the Aeon Lilith, Fire, Inspiration, being consumed by ones brilliance, ordeals under taken for greater understanding

                  The Inspired
                  Must Pattern Scour themselves every day unless they pursue mysteries
                  Prime/Mind

                  Initiate(The Soul Fire)
                  Supernal Vision- Instant Casting-Used in acquiring Mysteries to chase
                  Perfect Recall? - Advanced Duration? need suggestion (considering ignoring penalties from pain and exhaustion while pursing Mysteries)

                  Apprentice (Atop the Tree)
                  Words of Truth- Instant
                  Emotional Urging - Instant- self only


                  Disciple ()
                  Pierce Deception - Instant Cast, Reach for Truth, Advanced Potency
                  Concentrated Effort - Advanced Duration


                  Adept ()
                  ??? - Bonus to Clashes of Will
                  Burning Bright - Reflexive Casting

                  Master ()
                  ???
                  ???


                  Seed- Ghost/Ancestor Spirit Shaman

                  ???
                  Thyrsus, Mysterium
                  Death/Spirit

                  Initiate(Hear the Whispers)
                  Know Ghost* - Instant Casting
                  Coaxing the Spirits**- Instant Casting
                  *Ghost Know Spirit, with Spirit 1 also works as Know Spirit
                  ** Works on Ghosts and Anchors

                  Apprentice (Touch the Invisible energy)
                  Shape Ephemera - Advanced Duration
                  Channel Essence - Instant Casting


                  Disciple ()
                  Touch of the Grave* - Instant Casting, Advanced Duration
                  Ephemeral Shield** - Advanced Duration, Works with Physical Attacks
                  *works with spirits with Spirit 2


                  Adept ()
                  Quicken Ghost - Advanced Duration, Instant
                  Spirit Summons - Advanced Duration, Open Condition

                  Master ()
                  Familiar - Indefinite
                  Essence Fountain - Instant Casting


                  Seed- Adaptable Students of Self Potential

                  Broken Mirror
                  Mastigos, Mysterium
                  Time/Mind

                  Initiate(Reflection)
                  Perfect Recall* - Instant Casting
                  Know Nature- Sympathetic-Know how someone was
                  *Time Version

                  Apprentice (Keep the Image)
                  Veil of Moments* - Instant
                  Mental Scan/Postcognition - Advanced, Sympathetic
                  *Self only-Advanced Duration

                  Disciple )
                  Shield of Chronos - Instant Casting, Advanced Duration
                  Alter Mental Patterns- Advanced Duration, Instant

                  Adept ()
                  Shifting Sands* - Instant, Full Scene
                  Clear Thoughts- Advanced Duration, Instant
                  *self only-Instant
                  Master ()
                  Rewrite History* - Advanced Duration, change skills
                  Read the Depths - Instant, Advanced Duration, Modify Memories
                  *self only-change attributes

                  Edit: More incoming, I’ve just not had a lot of time lately

                  The potential idea bin-in a even rougher state than the above-written down so I don't forget

                  Seed-Thyrsus preservationists-Mysterium-symbols are fossils and Perfected Amber and Sap
                  Ruling: Time/Life
                  1st-Red Light instant
                  1st-cleanse body
                  2nd-Constant presence
                  2nd-Purge illness
                  3rd-Tipping Hourglass
                  3rd-Body control
                  4th-Chronos Curse
                  4th-?
                  5th-Veil of Moments
                  5th- Knit- Rest, Advanced Duration, Heals Tilts

                  Time side focuses on Slowing Down Time, Life side focuses on resisting damage and staying healthy

                  Seed-Creepy Haunted Doll makers-Mastigos? Guardians-Symbols are Dolls, puppets, stuffed animals, and marionettes
                  Ruling: Matter/Mind
                  Matter side animates tools ( and dolls), Mind side prepares them for a familiar to inhabit- could go Spirit instead



                  Seed-Mad Monster Makers- Arrow/Council Moros-Symbols are Chimeras, Blood, Genetics, lack of common sense
                  Ruling: Life/Matter
                  1st-Analyze Life
                  1st-Detect Substance

                  Seed-Gravity Masters- Obrimos Council-Symbols are Music of the Spheres,
                  Ruling: Forces/ Space

                  Seed- Spirit Choir Singer-Obrimious Ladder- Symbols are Summoning, Singing, Harmony
                  Ruling: Spirit/Prime

                  Seed- Abyssal Binders-Mastigos - Symbols are Frantic Mad Music, Hatred of the Abyss, Determination
                  Ruling: Space/Spirit

                  Last edited by TempleBuilder; 12-14-2022, 04:42 PM.


                  To whomever reads this, I hope you have a good day/night. May you be Happy.

                  So, I made some Mage Legacies here, with some help. They vary in quality, but I hope you take a look at them. Every one contains pieces of me, for better or worse.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Reflexive for Cloak Spell might be a bridge too far. It reads like Supernal Veil, so it'd might make sense as a rider that can be activated simultaneously with other Attainments. That would make it a bit of a weak Capstone tho...


                    Monkish Asexual.

                    I make Legacies when I'm bored. They're of middling quality, but have a look if you're interested. Advice and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cauthon View Post
                      Reflexive for Cloak Spell might be a bridge too far. It reads like Supernal Veil, so it'd might make sense as a rider that can be activated simultaneously with other Attainments. That would make it a bit of a weak Capstone tho...
                      The idea was that it can both hide stuff as a rider and after the fact. Not sure how to say that though.
                      Edit: there is at least one case of a spell being reflexive, that being Suppress Life. +2 Reach and a Mana as the cost.
                      Last edited by TempleBuilder; 11-18-2022, 09:23 PM.


                      To whomever reads this, I hope you have a good day/night. May you be Happy.

                      So, I made some Mage Legacies here, with some help. They vary in quality, but I hope you take a look at them. Every one contains pieces of me, for better or worse.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        What about including perfected poisons into the assassin's arsenal ? They could be tasteless, colorless and undetectable by mundane means, with a Toxicity equal to Potency.

                        Perhaps rather than Tamers, they could have been students of Micheletto. The famed assassin was a mage and needed agents to carry out the political machinations of Cezare Borgia, while simultaneously competing with the very best agents of the Medici.
                        Last edited by KaiserAfini; 11-18-2022, 09:33 PM.


                        New experiences are the font of creativity, when seeking inspiration, break your routine.

                        The Agathos Kai Sophos, an Acanthus Legacy of strategists (Mind/Time)
                        The Szary Strażnik, an Obrimos Legacy whose invisible hands guide through the Glyphs of Fate (Fate/Prime)

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                        • #13
                          Perfected Poison would be one of their Yantras, and Initiation. Honestly? Not sure where I would place it. Perhaps replace Hidden Hoard? Also, I had an idea of the Mana Toxin's effects not going away until the Mage Purged their System.

                          I'm going to just leave this here because the names are great.
                          Originally posted by KaiserAfini View Post

                          I think all you need is to use Hone the Perfected form to make perfected poison. I would call it Cantarella (to reference the near mythical toxin of the Borgias), make it odorless, tasteless, colorless, undetectable and incurable by mundane medicine, with [Potency] toxicity.

                          Then just have ready some perfected antipoison, which I would call Mithridate in reference to the poison king and his legendary formula. Alternatively, the mage could use Alchemist's Touch to gain immunity to the Cantarella before coating her lips in the poison.


                          To whomever reads this, I hope you have a good day/night. May you be Happy.

                          So, I made some Mage Legacies here, with some help. They vary in quality, but I hope you take a look at them. Every one contains pieces of me, for better or worse.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            On the topic of Perfected poisons, maybe something like the forced inability to comprehend symbols that you've mentioned before? "Posion a person's understanding", if you will?


                            Monkish Asexual.

                            I make Legacies when I'm bored. They're of middling quality, but have a look if you're interested. Advice and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cauthon View Post
                              On the topic of Perfected poisons, maybe something like the forced inability to comprehend symbols that you've mentioned before? "Posion a person's understanding", if you will?
                              I’d not recommend such; that sounds more like what the poison-mage whips up in her Imago for Prime/Mind Fraying/Unraveling spells, rather than actual Perfected poison.

                              Now, enchanted poison, on the other hand…


                              MtAw Homebrew:
                              Even more Legacies, updated to 2E
                              New 2E Legacies, expanded

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