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  • Originally posted by orathaic View Post

    I'm not sure a teleportation room which triggers every 10 minutes or every 3 hours is at all useful, contrasted with a portal/co-location. But i will think about whether it has any advantages...

    Yeeting potential enemies out of the Area is one.
    Mages with the right Obsessions and low Wisdom can get up to “Why NOT do it?” territory fairly quickly.


    ​I was directly inspired by Dave's answer to ask this precise question (which wasn't directly addressed).
    The man’s answer, to my reading, seems to confirm that you do indeed create magical effect zones via Area-casting. Which has practically the same result as targeting an empty space to… create magical effect zones.


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    • So I’ve recently come across a style of magic in a game that manipulates “the connections that bind us all” for a variety of effects. Said list of effects include summoning/creating? little bug things, manifesting threads to bind enemies in place, grappling hook, and a variety of damage effects. The narration on how it works reminded me of the Pandemonic view of Space, with effects scattered aroid the Arcana. Do you think that’s essentially accurate?


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      • Originally posted by TempleBuilder View Post
        So I’ve recently come across a style of magic in a game that manipulates “the connections that bind us all” for a variety of effects. Said list of effects include summoning/creating? little bug things, manifesting threads to bind enemies in place, grappling hook, and a variety of damage effects. The narration on how it works reminded me of the Pandemonic view of Space, with effects scattered aroid the Arcana. Do you think that’s essentially accurate?
        Manipulating "the connections that bind us all" is definitely Mastigos, but in Mage these connections are not as literal as your thing seems to be.

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        • On that note, is it plausible to make a Space version of Turn Momentum? Turn Momentum cast on the self seems the best way to create a grappling hook.


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          • Originally posted by TempleBuilder View Post
            Turn Momentum cast on the self seems the best way to create a grappling hook.
            While interesting, I'm gonna need you to walk me through that one


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            • Originally posted by TempleBuilder View Post
              On that note, is it plausible to make a Space version of Turn Momentum? Turn Momentum cast on the self seems the best way to create a grappling hook.
              Alter Direction? I 'm not sure how it differs from Turn Momentum, or if you have read both. But what does Turn Momentum do that Alter Direction can't?

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              • Originally posted by TempleBuilder View Post
                On that note, is it plausible to make a Space version of Turn Momentum? Turn Momentum cast on the self seems the best way to create a grappling hook.
                Or Teleportation Imbued into a rope-hook-gun. The hook doesn’t actually hook into anything; it merely assigns where the gun’s user gets teleported to.

                Or Break Boundary, for the video game grappling hooks whose usage is arbitrarily restricted to crossing over chasms, rivers, lava, etc. that cut off otherwise well-defined roads (as opposed to allowing the player to zip over anywhere).
                Last edited by 21C Hermit; 03-21-2023, 05:55 PM.


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                • Ok, what is a grappling hook physics-wise? It's a rope that can attach to objects, and then either be climbed or swung around. I'm mostly looking at the second part, but the game uses both.

                  So what happens when you swing around a point? Well, normal velocity becomes rotation velocity. So, you are changing the direction of your motion. Velocity is a speed plus a direction, and Momentum is Velocity times Mass. It's not as straightforward as just changing the angle of motion, instead taking place over time as it goes through the rotation, so this is probably a reach option.

                  The other bit is weirder, but when you do something like this, you create a bit of acceleration toward the center of rotation. This is because acceleration is the changing either the speed or direction of a velocity. This is usually known as centripetal force. If one increased that with Forces Perfecting, you could technically "pull" oneself towards the center of rotation.

                  Edit: clarification
                  Last edited by TempleBuilder; 03-21-2023, 06:06 PM.


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                  • Originally posted by orathaic View Post

                    Alter Direction? I 'm not sure how it differs from Turn Momentum, or if you have read both. But what does Turn Momentum do that Alter Direction can't?
                    Technically? (I think) When the spell ends, stuff returns to normal making a Z-shaped flight path instead of a V-shaped flight path.


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                    • Originally posted by TempleBuilder View Post
                      Technically? (I think) When the spell ends, stuff returns to normal making a Z-shaped flight path instead of a V-shaped flight path.
                      You can definitely make space curved, so that you get what appears to be circular motion and ends up with a C shaped path using Space (or apply a Force toward sthe center, but that might require potency to overcome the mass of the object).

                      I don't know if it would our be ruling, weaving, or Perfecting...
                      Last edited by orathaic; 03-22-2023, 04:39 AM. Reason: typo

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                      • Setting aside the increased risk of infesting yourself with Mind Spiders, can you use Psychic Domination on yourself? Forcing yourself to go to the gym or other tasks that you normally shirk is my first thought, though obviously there's hubris in it.


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                        • Originally posted by Cauthon View Post
                          Setting aside the increased risk of infesting yourself with Mind Spiders, can you use Psychic Domination on yourself? Forcing yourself to go to the gym or other tasks that you normally shirk is my first thought, though obviously there's hubris in it.
                          Yes, but it might feel like experiencing locked in syndrome while your body is being run by something else. Hubris aside, that sounds traumatizing.


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                          • Originally posted by Cauthon View Post
                            Setting aside the increased risk of infesting yourself with Mind Spiders, can you use Psychic Domination on yourself? Forcing yourself to go to the gym or other tasks that you normally shirk is my first thought, though obviously there's hubris in it.
                            KaiserAfini nailed it, and usually the method is to make yourself actually enjoy those tasks or at least ambivalent to doing them. Or just increase your Force of Will and willpower your way through it. A lot can go wrong with all of these methods, but it’s hopefully less traumatizing then Psychic Domination.


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                            • Originally posted by Cauthon View Post
                              Setting aside the increased risk of infesting yourself with Mind Spiders, can you use Psychic Domination on yourself? Forcing yourself to go to the gym or other tasks that you normally shirk is my first thought, though obviously there's hubris in it.
                              Since there is already an intention to do the tasks I would have said a relatively non-sinister Mind Compelling effect could do it.

                              Although I'm sure there are some Mastigos willing to experiment with Dominating themselves.

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                              • Originally posted by MorganG View Post

                                Since there is already an intention to do the tasks I would have said a relatively non-sinister Mind Compelling effect could do it.

                                Although I'm sure there are some Mastigos willing to experiment with Dominating themselves.
                                Sure Mastigos are all about challenge, maybe they would try to trigger a clash of wills to prevent the Psychic Domination from working?

                                Can you clash against yourself?

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