Alien Beings & Disquiet

[Enderdragon1201]

I've been wondering, would Disquiet affect aliens from another world? And for that matter, what about equally unnatural or otherwordly beings, like the True Fae for example? What about robots?

[21C Hermit]

Haven't bought/read Promethean 2e, but do animals and ephemerals (spirits, etc) get Disquiet? If so, then I'd say aliens get Disquieted.

I'd say no Disquiet for robots, but only for thematic reasons- Prometheans themselves are basically magical robots, it'd be weird to have robots think of each other as unholy abominations.

[FallenEco]

Haven't bought/read Promethean 2e, but do animals and ephemerals (spirits, etc) get Disquiet? If so, then I'd say aliens get Disquieted.

I'd say no Disquiet for robots, but only for thematic reasons- Prometheans themselves are basically magical robots, it'd be weird to have robots think of each other as unholy abominations.

Animals do get Disquiet, Ephemerals don't actually.
Totally agree about the robot thing.

[Enderdragon1201]

I agree on the robot thing, and I'm guessing since Ephemerals don't suffer Disquiet, that probably means the True Fae wouldn't be affected either? I'm mostly asking about this because I wonder how Gems, a race of alien robots from a show called Steven Universe, would react to Prometheans.

[Tessie]

It would probably depend on if you run them as magical beings with technological trappings or if they're just sufficiently advanced aliens.

[Enderdragon1201]

I'd place them more in the sufficiently advanced aliens catagory. Given that they have hologram bodies, they seem a lot like AIs to me, and I can think of scientific explanations for most of what they can do.

[Satchel]

I agree on the robot thing, and I'm guessing since Ephemerals don't suffer Disquiet, that probably means the True Fae wouldn't be affected either?

Per 1e, pretty much every fae entity that isn't a changeling or a fetch has trouble even giving attention to the Created, but is otherwise not specified to suffer Disquiet. Changelings aren't immune, but fetches are.

[MCN]

Well, Demons have some Disquiet, it seems. And they're basically robots... but they're also very humanish, whereas Angels would be immune.

[Enderdragon1201]

Gems do tend to act fairly similar to humans in terms of personality.

[wyrdhamster]

To me Gems are Created - but I have particular view of both races here.

[Enderdragon1201]

That would be interesting, but past the point when they are first created they don't seem to have much of an effect on the environment or creatures around them.

[FallenEco]

Well, Demons have some Disquiet, it seems. And they're basically robots... but they're also very humanish, whereas Angels would be immune.

Technically the Cover can acquire Disquiet. the actual Demon doesn't have to be a jerk. It just risks the God-Machine finding it if it doesn't.

[Enderdragon1201]

I see. So, might Disquiet in beings have something to do with souls, or is it simply about natural and unnatural (vampires, beasts, etc.) vs even more unnatural? Does Disquiet affect beasts, with nightmare monsters instead of souls?

[Satchel]

I see. So, might Disquiet in beings have something to do with souls, or is it simply about natural and unnatural (vampires, beasts, etc.) vs even more unnatural? Does Disquiet affect beasts, with nightmare monsters instead of souls?

Beasts are explicitly immune to Disquiet.

A handy general guideline is that if you're a mortal being with skin and organs and everything, being merged with some other chunk of the occult metaphysics of the setting doesn't remove the visceral-emotional levers that the Fire's curse pulls at. (Beasts have treacherous soulscapes inhabited by singular nightmare monsters that live in those levers, in a sense, and thus don't have to worry about getting their spiritual insides poked with sticks from interacting with the Created.)

[Enderdragon1201]

I see. Well, In that case it seems Disquiet most likely wouldn't affect Gems. Gems are immortal (when it comes to aging, anyway), have hologram bodies made of light (they do seem to have some anatomy as they can eat, though they don't need to, and do seem to feel pain.), and were created rather than born, meaning that they didn't start out as mortal or biological beings.