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  • Maitrecorbo
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    Originally posted by Shawarbaaz View Post
    To be completely honest Ventrue is one of the most fitting names for any Clan, since back in the day a big belly means someone is rich (able to afford a lot of food) and Ventrue itself is an anagram of Venture, as in business venture, and vampires from the Clan are known to be shrewd business persons.
    I get what you mean, but here the goal is to offer a new perspective to a player who is confusing the Requiem Ventrue with the Masquerade Ventrue and that is causing the character to pass some interesting opportunities for his character.
    As for using Lares instead of Ventrue, the game i am running is set in Venice in 1205 and i plan to have it run toward modern nights so ventrue is a term that is a bit to contemporary to the setting for it to be a common use. (same reason i wanted a different name for the nosferatu)


    Originally posted by LostLight View Post
    I know- but I feel like Clan Lares just doesn't have the "right ring" to my taste (and Clan Lar sounds less pleasant).
    I think its because the one syllable name sounds off when next to the other clan names. Still, i think i'll try it first see if it help my player.

    The responses here made me ponder how much using clan names happens in organic in-character conversations versus using nicknames and such. Still, if a PC wants to do some research on the different Curses (love that term instead of Clan) i'll use Lares for Ventrue.

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  • LostLight
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    Originally posted by Shawarbaaz View Post
    It's definitely better than Daeva, since the Hindu mythology the name is drawn from has almost nothing to do with seduction and sexual predators.
    I believe that in their case, it is the Persian version of the Daeva instead of the Hindu one (you know, demons which tempt mankind to sin)

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  • Shawarbaaz
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    To be completely honest Ventrue is one of the most fitting names for any Clan, since back in the day a big belly means someone is rich (able to afford a lot of food) and Ventrue itself is an anagram of Venture, as in business venture, and vampires from the Clan are known to be shrewd business persons.

    It's definitely better than Daeva, since the Hindu mythology the name is drawn from has almost nothing to do with seduction and sexual predators.

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  • LostLight
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    Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
    Singular would be Lar. Similar to how Julii is the plural of Julius.
    I know- but I feel like Clan Lares just doesn't have the "right ring" to my taste (and Clan Lar sounds less pleasant). However, my personal taste is not important- Maitrecorbo's does, so its not really relevant.

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  • Maitrecorbo
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    Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
    Singular would be Lar. Similar to how Julii is the plural of Julius.

    Stupid latin correspondance course.

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  • Charlaquin
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    Originally posted by Maitrecorbo View Post

    Would you feel that strigoi is a bit to close to strix?
    I think that's appropriate, as in the Gangrel Clan book it's suggested that the Gangrel are somehow connected to the Strix. One character is even convinced that the Gangrel are literally the Strix. And it plays into the Julii/Ventrue/Gangrel connection, which I'm a big fan of.

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  • Charlaquin
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    Originally posted by LostLight View Post
    Perhaps instead of Clan Lares, you could use instead Clan Manea? I don't know why, but the "s" in the name feels to me a bit awkward, and it gets worse if you use the singular form.
    Singular would be Lar. Similar to how Julii is the plural of Julius.
    Last edited by Charlaquin; 10-18-2017, 02:04 PM.

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  • Live Bait
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    Originally posted by Sethnacht View Post
    Instead of Clan, I sometimes used Curse - it still connects Kindred of the same lineage ("We share the same curse&quot, but doesn´t imply a social or political unity between them.

    As for Draugr, we simply called them the "Lost" at our table, as in "lost to the Beast/Hunger".
    Those are both very good ideas and I will probably use them at some point.

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  • Sethnacht
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    Instead of Clan, I sometimes used Curse - it still connects Kindred of the same lineage ("We share the same curse"), but doesn´t imply a social or political unity between them.

    As for Draugr, we simply called them the "Lost" at our table, as in "lost to the Beast/Hunger".

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  • Live Bait
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    I think Clan is as good a term as any, if you try and come up with the perfect word then be ready to look at Latin, Greek etc. words and go mad trying to decide which one would become the predominant one at which point in history and how usage would spread.
    Or maybe that just happens to me.

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  • Maitrecorbo
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    All great suggestions.
    So after a few research here is what i'm thinking of going with.

    Ventrue: Lares of the line of Manea the first of the Lare
    Nosferatu: Moroi (from what i saw it can also mean nightmares so i think it is fitting for the nosferatu)
    Gangrel: Draugr (i'll figure something out for the zero humanity)

    What about the word clan? Do you guys feel it is still appropriate in Requiem as the denomination to distinguish between types of vampire?
    Honestly i could go either way with that. I dont think its a perfect fit but i also dont think its a bad fit. In the modern day i would probably use something like Strains, but it would be a very modern term that older kindred simply wouldnt use.

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  • LostLight
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    Perhaps instead of Clan Lares, you could use instead Clan Manea? I don't know why, but the "s" in the name feels to me a bit awkward, and it gets worse if you use the singular form. Manea (or Mania) seems to fit, as she is a candidate to the "Mother of the Lares", and her dual nature of being both the mother of gods of civilization and a goddess of insanity does sounds Ventrue to me.

    As for the Gangrel- while the Strigoi is close to the Strix (I think the words come from the same root, if I'm not mistaken), it may not be a problem as the Gangrel has always been said to be closer to the Beast than the other Clans. If you dislike it, perhaps you could use Clan Vyrkolaka, which could play nicely with the connection between those mythological vampires and their relationship with Werewolves as an expression of the Gangrel's Protean. Nosferatu could use Vjesci, also.

    If you don;t find another name you like, you could always take one from a Bloodline and replace between them. After all, there are already enough Bloodlines which share names with Masquerade, and as not all Bloodlines come up in all games the chances are it won't cause too much problems (like, for example, using the name Annunaku to the Gangrel)

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  • Maitrecorbo
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    Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
    For Gangrel, I might actually go with Strigoi. Moroi would technically be a better choice for a Romanian name, but it's already the name of a Bloodline.
    Would you feel that strigoi is a bit to close to strix?

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  • Charlaquin
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    Lares is a really good one for Ventrue, and has the added bonus of not necessitating any change of the Julii name if they ever come up in the game.

    For Nosferatu, Orlochs might be low-handing fruit, but it fits the bill.

    For Gangrel, I might actually go with Strigoi. Moroi would technically be a better choice for a Romanian name, but it's already the name of a Bloodline.

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  • Maitrecorbo
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    I just reread the ventrue clanbook (great idea btw) and i'll probably show the player the characters that dont exactly fit the mold he has in his mind. First impression are a tough things to break tho.

    So far, I like the Julii for the Ventrue and after reading the clanbook i though of perhaps using Lare.
    For the gangrel, i'm perhaps thinking of using Draugr instead, but then i'll have to find another word for humanity 0 (i'm afraid of starting a congo line of name changes :P )

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