Character, Tribal and Auspice gift transfer from 1st to 2nd edition.

[Malus]

While I agree, I think it's very important not to plan abilities by the limits of other gamelines.

Disregard the Celerity thing and you'll still have the Flash concern.

[Malus]

1) The answer is simple, essence. Plus you can allready use a similar power in urhan with no limit. This facet allows you to use it in all forms.

2) The siskur dah condition lasts untill the hunt ends which may take an entire story, maybe a small one, but can last for too long.

3) No op at all, you need to be in grapple to benefit from the gift or else it does nothing. Gauru in basu can automatically use without cost great many a gifts and become a real monster. I will reconsider the essence per turn though, it might be more appropriate. Man Butchery is more broken than this gift. I also like the way they combine ...for 3 essence .

4)Well my bad here again since Killing Rampage allows you to move (not run) and make two attacks on a single target or move and make a multiple target attack if you can reach multiple targets, Well normally you don't do two attacks in a round, but there are powers like in Promethean and Demon that allow you to do two different actions like run and attack without losing defense , which is also broken and for less than 2 trait expediture. Well the run and attack while keeping defense posibility might be good but out of mood of this list. There are also gifts that allow you do other reflexive actions like stealth and move or other stuff.

It was more like ''final as ''final decision'' I think
Everything is still under discussion, it's just that these are the best options so far, Killing Rampage does make my mind still spinning though, but I don't think that its too strong on its own. Maybe I will make it to allow you making attacks as ''advanced actions'' with both roll successes added .

1) Then use the language established with Chase Down, for Christ Sake, or at least reference it.

2) But that's not what you wrote, hence why I redlined it.

3) Grappling as a werewolf is stupidly easy, literally all my kills with my Ithaeur have come out of it.

4) So it should say something like "The Uratha becomes a blur of motion and gains a bonus to all attacks equal to Purity, and may attack additional victims reflexively at a -1 penalty per subject. Example: [Blah Blah Blah]".

[Story Letter]

How about now?
•••••Rage of the Killer Moon : Spend two Essence points (R) per turn, add Purity to attack rolls that ignore defense and dodge rolls, if a superatural power is increasing the enemy defese the rahu ignores one point per purity renown, he still adds his purity on the attack roll.

[wyrdhamster]

Should you not do this other way around - i.e. changing 1st Gifts to 2nd model - so split them on Honor, Purity, Wisdom, Cunning and Glory Facets, not put them at * to ***** scale?

[Tessie]

It's a Moon Gift, not a Shadow Gift or Wolf Gift.

[Story Letter]

Should you not do this other way around - i.e. changing 1st Gifts to 2nd model - so split them on Honor, Purity, Wisdom, Cunning and Glory Facets, not put them at * to ***** scale?

This is supposed to be the 5th dot of a Moon gift, it can't be split in renown facets.

I will post such a thing soon for the Gift of the Kinslayer which will be indeed split in renown facets.

[Story Letter]

Tessie what's your oppinion on the 5th one? How do you believe it should be?

[wyrdhamster]

This is supposed to be the 5th dot of a Moon gift, it can't be split in renown facets.

Could you mark for which Auspice is the Gift in the name of final write-up? It would be easier to see that it will be use by Rahu characters. I do not know all the 1E books and all the Gifts so marking for what particular Auspice or Tribe the 2E Gift is, would make it more easier to read.

[Story Letter]

Could you mark for which Auspice is the Gift in the name of final write-up? It would be easier to see that it will be use by Rahu characters. I do not know all the 1E books and all the Gifts so marking for what particular Auspice or Tribe the 2E Gift is, would make it more easier to read.

It is a homemade Moon Gift for the Rahu auspice for the 2nd edition, it does not exist in any of the books and I am trying to create the facets in order to replace the old Warrior's Moon gift list from Lore of the Forsaken. I am making mixups from various gift lists so far and try to transmogrify them to the playing style of the 2nd edition.

The title is ''Killer Moon Gift'' and so far I believe from the 1st to the 4rth dot I am quite satisfied, will probably need to make minor alterations. The 5th dot is a bit tricky and I am still working on it, maybe it looks a bit poor.

But hey feel free to toss ideas in order to improve it or the list in general.

[Malus]

How about now?
•••••Rage of the Killer Moon : Spend two Essence points (R) per turn, add Purity to attack rolls that ignore defense and dodge rolls, if a superatural power is increasing the enemy defese the rahu ignores one point per purity renown, he still adds his purity on the attack roll.

That's redundant. Bonus dice always ignore penalties, because that's how addition and subtraction works. Nevermind there's already gifts that work like that.

[Story Letter]

That's redundant. Bonus dice always ignore penalties, because that's how addition and subtraction works. Nevermind there's already gifts that work like that.

That give dice yes that ignore defense completely, no but there is still room for perfection
It kinda like to work like firearms like auto fire mode with Purity as bonus dice, that will ignore defence from normal people one defense per purity from people with supernatural defence like uratha in gauru or spirits.

[Malus]

I'd just give them Aggravated claws and fangs at that level.

[Story Letter]

I'd just give them Aggravated claws and fangs at that level.

That would have been poor design. Gifts of that magnitude should have great impact rule wise. For instance crimson spasm has the possibility to give tremendous boost
I don't want to make the 5th dot of Killing moon to be stronger than the iriginal list, but rather to have unique effects.

[Malus]

That would have been poor design. Gifts of that magnitude should have great impact rule wise. For instance crimson spasm has the possibility to give tremendous boost
I don't want to make the 5th dot of Killing moon to be stronger than the iriginal list, but rather to have unique effects.

So far your unique effects are poorly worded, to put it kindly. And in 2e, Aggravated damage is a huge factor. The best Auspice to get it without incurring taboo or debilitating effects is the Rahu.

[Story Letter]

So far your unique effects are poorly worded, to put it kindly. And in 2e, Aggravated damage is a huge factor. The best Auspice to get it without incurring taboo or debilitating effects is the Rahu.

Sorry, but I find you pessimistic, try to cheer up a bit and help the situation.
Cheers.