2E Lodges - Conversions and Homebrew

[Deionscribe]

Starting this because I haven't seen any thread yet for people to post ideas for converting 1E Lodges, as well as creating Homebrew ones.

To start it off, I'm trying on creating a Lodge which has the Eater of Names (Firstborn mentioned from Dark Eras' Sundered World chapter) as its Totem. In terms of size, it's probably big enough to almost rival the Tribal Pillars. And I've been thinking of giving Lodge members access to Lodge Sorcery, and perhaps Lodge Lorehouse as well in addition to a Merit which gives them an extra advantage in devouring Awakened flesh for Essence.

Any suggestions for what sort of Influences the Eater of Names might have? It's a Rank 5 spirit with possibly two extra Influence dots due to the Lodge's size. Not to mention some Numina slots have been used for five more Influence dots.

I'm also interested in hearing what additional/alternative Lodge benefits could be given to werewolves under the Firstborn's purview.

[Acrozatarim]

A hint: The Eater of Names is called that for a reason. She didn't hunt mages for no reason. Take a gander at how names affect sympathetic magic etc for a starting point.

[Deionscribe]

A hint: The Eater of Names is called that for a reason. She didn't hunt mages for no reason. Take a gander at how names affect sympathetic magic etc for a starting point.

Ah.

Well, that clarifies things a little bit. So, am I right to assume that she hunted Mages to gain power over them through their true names?

[ZealousChristian24]

Maybe their Sacred Hunt could allow them to track someone using their Sympathetic Name/Nimbus as a scent?

[Deionscribe]

Maybe their Sacred Hunt could allow them to track someone using their Sympathetic Name/Nimbus as a scent?

That's actually a good idea.

Just need to clarify something, though. The Lodge Blessings are entirely separate from the Sacred Hunt benefits, right? Last time I read the Lodge write-ups, there wasn't anything that mentioned what their Siskur-Dah benefits were.

[Amravanti]

Yeah, there is a Blessing, a Ban, an Aspiration and a lodge specific Sacred Hunt.

[Deionscribe]

Yeah, there is a Blessing, a Ban, an Aspiration and a lodge specific Sacred Hunt.

Well, seeing as Acro's little tidbit gave me a better idea on the Eater of Names' concept, I have to post my proposed Blessing to see if it's apt. As for the Sacred Hunt, perhaps I'll go with ZealousChristian's idea that the Sympathetic Name might allow them to track the Mage anywhere for as long as the Condition is active.

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Blessing: Werewolves of the Lodge can use their spirit senses to perceive an Awakened Mage's Nimbus, and can use it to track him down.

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Initially, I was also going to add a bonus to tracking rolls involving a Mage's Gnosis. But I wasn't sure how to handle it, especially since I'm not sure what the benefits to tasting the blood of prey are, if any.

[nofather]

Initially, I was also going to add a bonus to tracking rolls involving a Mage's Gnosis. But I wasn't sure how to handle it, especially since I'm not sure what the benefits to tasting the blood of prey are, if any.

If you've tasted a creature's blood you can sense their direction, no matter the distance or barrier. It lasts a month, or until the werewolf tastes another creature's blood.

I'd suggest being able to sense sympathetic connections with the target for a sacred hunt blessing.

[Deionscribe]

If you've tasted a creature's blood you can sense their direction, no matter the distance or barrier. It lasts a month, or until the werewolf tastes another creature's blood.

I'd suggest being able to sense sympathetic connections with the target for a sacred hunt blessing.

How about this? Also, I'm going to need a good name for the Lodge. Letting them take the name of their Totem seems less appealing, now.

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Blessing: Werewolves of the Lodge can use their spirit senses to perceive an Awakened Mage's Nimbus, and can use it to track him down. Furthermore, if subjected to a given Mage's Nimbus Tilt, they are treated as having tasted the Mage's blood for the purpose of tracking him. This benefit lasts for a month, or until the werewolf is exposed to another Awakened Nimbus Tilt.

Sacred Hunt
The Sacred Hunt of the Lodge allows them to detect on sight the sympathetic connections of their prey, as well as determine the nature of such connections. If magic has been used to conceal or falsify a given link, a werewolf may roll Wits + Primal Urge in a Clash of Wills to pierce this occlusion.

[Deionscribe]

Update on that Lodge idea using the Eater of Names as its Totem.

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Blessing: The adherent of the Lodge can use spirit senses to perceive sympathetic links, and rolls Wits + Primal Urge to scrutinize them. If he uses a given link to track someone, he is considered to have spoor equal to its Withstand rating.

Aspiration: To learn a Mage's sympathetic name.

Ban: To perform a service for whoever offers the adherent his true name.

[Ephsy]

I'd argue one of the first things one sworn to the Eater of Names would be to offer it to be feasted on. Good luck trying to cast sympathetically on them.

[nofather]

Ban: To obey whoever speaks one's true name.

That's a crippling ban, especially since all of the big three have ways to figure out your true name just by looking at you. Since the Eater is a Firstborn, you could take a cue from one of the bans from the other Firstborn.

[Deionscribe]

That's a crippling ban, especially since all of the big three have ways to figure out your true name just by looking at you. Since the Eater is a Firstborn, you could take a cue from one of the bans from the other Firstborn.

How about "To fulfill any oaths sworn on one's true name"?

[Amravanti]

That's a crippling ban, especially since all of the big three have ways to figure out your true name just by looking at you. Since the Eater is a Firstborn, you could take a cue from one of the bans from the other Firstborn.

Agreed, though to be fair you could have a lodge rite or custom that shields one's name from magical detection. Maybe the name is eaten by the totem, or otherwise guarded somehow and can only be discovered via mundane sources? Or admission. Or who knows. Just an idea

[Vent0]

What about offering a service to one who offers their True Name? Need something done, and you can go to an Eater of Names. Just be aware that they practically own you from that point forward (due to you just handing them a sympathetic connection right to you).