Ghoul Outcomes

[Gryffon15]

I do think that the example I gave is a brute force one, so I figured I’d explain how I came to it. It came from me contemplating how a young and unestablished vampire might go about getting for themselves all the nice things that are assumed to go along with age and status.

While of course the Internet has widely opened possibilities that had previously been limited to wire or mailing services, many vampires only being able to operate during the night limits their ability to make money ordinarily. While their are a variety of schemes that one can use to get money with purely mundane...

[Gryffon15]

This question has come up from me thinking about the logistics of certain aspects of vampire, for the sake of my own personal verisimilitude. My question is, how do people think that vampires would handle superfluous ghouls? Let me elaborate.

Here’s a hypothetical. Vampire Tom ghouls Mark, an executive. Tom wants Mark to set aside a percentage of his salary every month to help keep Tom flush. In exchange Tom gives Mark regular feedings. I know that this is a rather vulgar example and that experienced and savvy vamps would be more subtle than Tom is being, but work with me.
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[Gryffon15]

You’re right, I added troll into there to have more lithe involved with the more fundamental Redcap v. Sidhe divide.

That being said, it’s not always a given that Trolls will go along with the Sidhe readily. The Trolls tend to have a vision of authority which requires merit, honor, and responsible conduct to maintain. Some Sidhe can embody those ideals and so they get along fine with Trolls. However Sidhe can also embody effortless grandeur, useless beauty, and aloof nobility; all things which would drive most Trolls up the wall if they had to deal with. Trolls might be willing...

[Gryffon15]

Do you have any more details? The sheer number of potential combinations makes it difficult to say anything concrete.

I suppose the most archetypal unusual group would include Sidhe, Redcaps, and Trolls; all together for some reason.

[Gryffon15]

Do you have any particular kind of group in mind or is this just a thought experiment?

I guess the most bizarre would be a Kithain, Thallain, Gallain, Dauntain, and Denizen all together for some reason.

[Gryffon15]

The mention of Judaism reminded me of a thread I had read once which I’ll share alongside this post. It may not be about the blood bank issue but it is an interesting account of one person’s discussion with a rabbi about what the appropriate conduct of a vampire might be.

https://www.tumblr.com/alternativeto...ican-bigsis144...

[Gryffon15]

I’m currently of the mind that, when it comes to the Union v. The Council, it’s less a matter of a distinction between left and right and more a question of what the Status Quo ought to be and what our relationship to that Status Quo ought to be. I could also maybe see an argument for a authority-liberty axis being a point of distinction.

I don’t think those are a perfect allegory either, because as I’ve mentioned above, I think the concepts of Mage are too concerned with the occult worldview to be readily translated into material politics, but I do think there’s enough...

[Gryffon15]

I think another part of Mage which complicates any political reading is that the territory which Mage is working in, that late 20th century occult mileau, while you can certainly argue that in relation to society it has political significance, within its own internal boundaries it abstracts itself significantly from the material foundations from which actual politics is drawn.

Which isn’t to say that the means of organizing the factions of Mages isn’t interesting or that considering how they and Magick might relate to society in general isn’t interesting, but it’s also difficult...